no, the goal of a framework is to make the 90% usecase easy and the
10% usecase possible.

there arent many threads on this list requesting this particular
feature so i guess its not that common a usecase. of course, you can
always add a jira ticket with a patch.

-igor

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Thierry Leveque<tleve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course, but the goal of using a framework like Wicket is just that: avoid
> having to write everything by myself. No?
>
> So it is a suggestion to add in a future release. I think a lot of people
> need that kind of functionality. If it could be generic enough.
>
> I think Ajax is rarely used to submit a form. It is more to make it dynamic.
> Like adapting the form content based on other fields values. I can see tons
> of examples for that.
> It would be very nice to be able to do that kind of stuff without having to
> rewrite part of the code ourselves.
>
> I I find time to write it myself I will be glad to give my code to the
> Wicket team...
>
> Thierry
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 15:40, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you can see how the submit behavior does it and replicate the parts
>> you need. all these things are not using some magical internal apis.
>> you are meant to build your own things when the default
>> implementations do not do what you want.
>>
>> -igor
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Thierry Leveque<tleve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks, but I was not talking about using the submit behavior.
>> >
>> > I was talking about the way to create my own ajax behavior to send the
>> value
>> > of multiple form fields.
>> >
>> > I think this should be part of Wicket. It is not the first time I
>> encounter
>> > this problem. The first time, I found a workaround but this time I am
>> stuck.
>> > There should be a simple way to create an ajax behavior that will send
>> the
>> > values from the form components we want. Maybe with the option to
>> validate
>> > them or not.
>> > What do you think?
>> >
>> > Thierry
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/7/7 Stefan Malmesjö <s.m.mo...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> >> I just realized that maybe you need to extend your validators, too, at
>> >> least if you want your modelobject to be updated. And how you do that on
>> a
>> >> textfield that is required, I don't really know.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe that path is too complicated.
>> >>
>> >> /Stefan
>> >>
>> >> On 2009-07-06 22:55, Stefan Malmesjö wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Could setting visibility for the FeedbackPanel to false until the form
>> has
>> >>> been "properly" submitted with a press of a submit button work?
>> >>>
>> >>> /Stefan
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Thierry Leveque <tleve...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:
>> >>> tleve...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>    Any following on that?
>> >>>
>> >>>    Daniel, have you been able to solve your problem? Did you wrote
>> >>>    your own
>> >>>    behavior?
>> >>>
>> >>>    I have the same requirement as you and I am trying to find a quick
>> >>>    way to
>> >>>    solve my problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>    Can someone point me to some examples on how to write my own Ajax
>> >>>    behavior?
>> >>>
>> >>>    Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>>    Thierry
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>    On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:21, Igor Vaynberg
>> >>>    <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com <mailto:igor.vaynb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>    > well, if you do not want to *submit* the form then dont use
>> >>>    > ajaxformSUBMITbehavior :)
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    > with little work you can roll your own behavior that does a simple
>> >>>    > ajax get and appends whatever values you need from formcomponents
>> to
>> >>>    > the url. that way the form is not submitted and you have access
>> >>>    to the
>> >>>    > raw values.
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    > -igor
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:16 AM, dfernandez
>> >>>    > <dfernan...@users.sourceforge.net
>> >>>    <mailto:dfernan...@users.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > Yes, I know it is tricky, but the fact is I don't think I
>> >>>    would really
>> >>>    > need
>> >>>    > > type conversion in this case.
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > I will try to explain myself. I have the following UI:
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >    |OPERATOR |V|
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >    |INPUT1="aBc"        |     |INPUT2="DeF"          |
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > ...being "OPERATOR" the DropDownChoice, and both INPUT1 and
>> >>>    INPUT2 two
>> >>>    > > TextFields (String TextFields, to be precise). Both INPUT1 and
>> >>>    INPUT2 are
>> >>>    > > required (when they are visible, of course).
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > When I change the value on "OPERATOR", the UI will change,
>> >>>    hiding INPUT1
>> >>>    > and
>> >>>    > > INPUT2 but showing INPUT3, another TextField which should have
>> >>>    the same
>> >>>    > > contents that were on INPUT1 before:
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >    |OPERATOR |V|
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >    |INPUT3="aBc"        |
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > The problem is that, when changing OPERATOR, I need to read
>> >>>    the value
>> >>>    > from
>> >>>    > > INPUT1 to set it into INPUT3, but if INPUT2 is empty I will
>> >>>    receive a
>> >>>    > > validation message telling me that it is required... which it
>> >>>    is, but I
>> >>>    > just
>> >>>    > > want Wicket to validate that when I want to *really* submit
>> >>>    the form, and
>> >>>    > > not now that I am only changing the operator.
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > Thanks.
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > Regards,
>> >>>    > > Daniel.
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > >
>> >>>    > > igor.vaynberg wrote:
>> >>>    > >>
>> >>>    > >> how are you planning on reading the other values? you cannot
>> >>>    access
>> >>>    > >> the model so you will have to call getinput(), are you also
>> >>>    planning
>> >>>    > >> on doing type conversion yourself then?
>> >>>    > >>
>> >>>    > >> -igor
>> >>>    > >>
>> >>>    > >> 2009/6/2 Daniel Fernández <dfernan...@users.sourceforge.net
>> >>>    <mailto:dfernan...@users.sourceforge.net>>:
>> >>>
>> >>>    > >>> Hello,
>> >>>    > >>>
>> >>>    > >>> I have a form with a DropDownChoice, on which "onchange"
>> >>>    event I want
>> >>>    > to
>> >>>    > >>> update some form components. But I need to read data from
>> >>>    other fields
>> >>>    > of
>> >>>    > >>> the form for doing so, and so I added an
>> >>>    AjaxFormSubmitBehavior to the
>> >>>    > >>> DropDownChoice.
>> >>>    > >>>
>> >>>    > >>> My intention is to read the data from the drop down and from
>> >>>    the other
>> >>>    > >>> fields, and depending on these data, update some other
>> >>>    components...
>> >>>    > but
>> >>>    > >>> the
>> >>>    > >>> problem is that AjaxFormSubmitBehavior not only sends the
>> >>>    form data,
>> >>>    > but
>> >>>    > >>> also *validates it*, which I don't want (I don't want
>> validation
>> >>>    > messages
>> >>>    > >>> to
>> >>>    > >>> appear when changing the value of the drop down).
>> >>>    > >>>
>> >>>    > >>> If it where an AjaxButton I would be able to just
>> >>>    > >>> setDefaultFormProcessing(false), but I don't see anything
>> >>>    like that in
>> >>>    > >>> AjaxFormSubmitBehavior...
>> >>>    > >>>
>> >>>    > >>> Is there a way to do this?
>> >>>    > >>>
>> >>>    > >>> Regards,
>> >>>    > >>> Daniel.
>> >>>    > >>>
>> >>>    > >>
>> >>>    > >>
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