On Tue, Mar 20, 2012, at 10:50, Martin Grigorov wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Pointbreak > <pointbreak+wicketst...@ml1.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012, at 10:40, Martin Grigorov wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Pointbreak > >> <pointbreak+wicketst...@ml1.net> wrote: > >> > Yes (sort of) except you don't need two users. Just bookmark a page with > >> > a version/id e.g. ?5, close the sessions, open a new session, do some > >> > interaction so that another version of the page with version/id ?5 > >> > exists, and use that bookmark. Stuff like that confuses users even if > >> > they don't care about "pretty" urls. > >> > >> But it is the same in 1.4. > >> Do some Ajax interactions to swap panels for example, copy the url, > >> then later paste it and you will see the initial version of the page, > >> not the one with the swapped panels. > >> > > > > Yes this was also the case in 1.4. But in 1.4 with > > HybridUrlCodingStrategy you could work around that (sort of). > > Please explain.
Sorry for confusion, we didn't use HybridUrlCodingStrategy, but QueryStringUrlCodingStrategy. It doesn't put the version nr into the url of stateful pages, but always gives the latest version of a page. That solves the problem when bookmarking a page (because you don't bookmark a specific version of a page, but just the page). (It may however cause problems when users keep two versions of a page open in two tabs and switch between them, since callbacks on one of them are not in sync with the latest version.) > > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012, at 10:07, Martin Grigorov wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Igor Vaynberg > >> >> <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > indeed. we should check that the page pointed to by the id maps back > >> >> > to the mount, and create a new instance based on the mount if it > >> >> > doesnt. jira please. > >> >> > >> >> This is already the case, no need of a ticket for this. If there is no > >> >> ?5 then Wicket creates ?0 and shows it. > >> >> > >> >> The "problem" Pointbreak actually mean is that userA may have opened > >> >> ?5 in his session, copy the url and give it to > >> >> userB, but userB also already have its own session and by chance he > >> >> also had reached ?5 and these two ?5s are > >> >> different because they may have different states for both users. > >> >> > >> >> The confusing part here is "bookmarkable". Now imagine that there is > >> >> no ?pageId in the url. userA clicks several Ajax links to get to > >> >> version5 of that page and then copy/paste the url but userB will see > >> >> the initial state of the page, not version5 that userA actually meant. > >> >> So it seems only ?0 is actually "bookmarkable" for stateful pages. > >> >> Only in this case both users will see the same content (if there is no > >> >> special logic for user permissions involved). > >> >> > >> >> If userA wants to fully share his page with userB then he has to share > >> >> his session too, i.e. both ?5 and jessionid= has to be in the pasted > >> >> url. I don't recomment this! > >> >> > >> >> ?5 helps when the user refreshes the page in his current session. In > >> >> this case he will see the same content as before the refresh. In 1.4 > >> >> he'd see the initial state of the page and will loose any state that > >> >> is not persisted so far. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > -igor > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Pointbreak > >> >> > <pointbreak+wicketst...@ml1.net> wrote: > >> >> >> It's a problem when users bookmark it. Because ...?5 this session is > >> >> >> an > >> >> >> entirely other page as ...?5 in another session tomorrow. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012, at 11:53, Girts Ziemelis wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On 2012-03-19 02:46, Paolo wrote: > >> >> >>> > I support you! I implemented class NoVersionMount thanks to > >> >> >>> > pointbreak > >> >> >>> > in my MainApplication. And It will be my template for future app. > >> >> >>> > But > >> >> >>> > to do it, I needed to understood the problem, check on google, > >> >> >>> > read a > >> >> >>> > lot of pages, without found a solution, so post the question > >> >> >>> > here, and > >> >> >>> > after 3 post, got a right reply for me. Why an wicket user have > >> >> >>> > to do > >> >> >>> > all this???? Why not, wicket use the NoVersionMount as default > >> >> >>> > Mount? > >> >> >>> > Like in wicket 1.4. And implement an VersionMount as an > >> >> >>> > alternative > >> >> >>> > for developer? > >> >> >>> I actually like this change so far. I can finally tell, that my > >> >> >>> page is > >> >> >>> stetefull just by looking at the link and ask myself question - if I > >> >> >>> really care so much about the clean link for this page, may be it > >> >> >>> should > >> >> >>> be stateless in a first place? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> And why is ?0 such a big problem? It does not cause problems sending > >> >> >>> links. > >> >> >>> Is there any real proof of google indexing problems so far? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Martin Grigorov > >> >> jWeekend > >> >> Training, Consulting, Development > >> >> http://jWeekend.com > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Martin Grigorov > >> jWeekend > >> Training, Consulting, Development > >> http://jWeekend.com > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > > > > > -- > Martin Grigorov > jWeekend > Training, Consulting, Development > http://jWeekend.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
