On Tue, Mar 20, 2012, at 10:40, Martin Grigorov wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Pointbreak
> <pointbreak+wicketst...@ml1.net> wrote:
> > Yes (sort of) except you don't need two users. Just bookmark a page with
> > a version/id e.g. ?5, close the sessions, open a new session, do some
> > interaction so that another version of the page with version/id ?5
> > exists, and use that bookmark. Stuff like that confuses users even if
> > they don't care about "pretty" urls.
> 
> But it is the same in 1.4.
> Do some Ajax interactions to swap panels for example, copy the url,
> then later paste it and you will see the initial version of the page,
> not the one with the swapped panels.
>

Yes this was also the case in 1.4. But in 1.4 with
HybridUrlCodingStrategy you could work around that (sort of).

> >
> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012, at 10:07, Martin Grigorov wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > indeed. we should check that the page pointed to by the id maps back
> >> > to the mount, and create a new instance based on the mount if it
> >> > doesnt. jira please.
> >>
> >> This is already the case, no need of a ticket for this. If there is no
> >> ?5 then Wicket creates ?0 and shows it.
> >>
> >> The "problem" Pointbreak actually mean is that userA may have opened
> >> ?5 in his session, copy the url and give it to
> >> userB, but userB also already have its own session and by chance he
> >> also had reached ?5 and these two ?5s are
> >> different because they may have different states for both users.
> >>
> >> The confusing part here is "bookmarkable". Now imagine that there is
> >> no ?pageId in the url. userA clicks several Ajax links to get to
> >> version5 of that page and then copy/paste the url but userB will see
> >> the initial state of the page, not version5 that userA actually meant.
> >> So it seems only ?0 is actually "bookmarkable" for stateful pages.
> >> Only in this case both users will see the same content (if there is no
> >> special logic for user permissions involved).
> >>
> >> If userA wants to fully share his page with userB then he has to share
> >> his session too, i.e. both ?5 and jessionid= has to be in the pasted
> >> url. I don't recomment this!
> >>
> >> ?5 helps when the user refreshes the page in his current session. In
> >> this case he will see the same content as before the refresh. In 1.4
> >> he'd see the initial state of the page and will loose any state that
> >> is not persisted so far.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > -igor
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Pointbreak
> >> > <pointbreak+wicketst...@ml1.net> wrote:
> >> >> It's a problem when users bookmark it. Because ...?5 this session is an
> >> >> entirely other page as ...?5 in another session tomorrow.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012, at 11:53, Girts Ziemelis wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 2012-03-19 02:46, Paolo wrote:
> >> >>> > I support you! I implemented class NoVersionMount thanks to 
> >> >>> > pointbreak
> >> >>> > in my MainApplication. And It will be my template for future app. But
> >> >>> > to do it, I needed to understood the problem, check on google, read a
> >> >>> > lot of pages, without found a solution, so post the question here, 
> >> >>> > and
> >> >>> > after 3 post, got a right reply for me. Why an wicket user have to do
> >> >>> > all this???? Why not, wicket use the NoVersionMount as default Mount?
> >> >>> > Like in wicket 1.4. And implement an VersionMount as an alternative
> >> >>> > for developer?
> >> >>> I actually like this change so far. I can finally tell, that my page is
> >> >>> stetefull just by looking at the link and ask myself question - if I
> >> >>> really care so much about the clean link for this page, may be it 
> >> >>> should
> >> >>> be stateless in a first place?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And why is ?0 such a big problem? It does not cause problems sending
> >> >>> links.
> >> >>> Is there any real proof of google indexing problems so far?
> >> >>>
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