Hi,

I am an user of xwiki and I understand velocity.

Maybe my users of my Wiki, which is an application of xwiki, won't understand 
velocity.
However, they won't see it all. They will not even see "(x)wiki syntax"

Stefan Bachert




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Von: Sergiu Dumitriu <ser...@xwiki.com>
An: XWiki Users <users@xwiki.org>
Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 14:12:36 Uhr
Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Macro in html-macro

On 02/23/2010 12:48 PM, stefan bachert wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> Technical you are surely totally right in the context of xwiki
> But try to see that stuff from an users point of view, not from a developers 
> one.
> An user want to use xwiki not to analyse it.

And a USER would expect a macro to understand Velocity? I doubt that any 
regular user knows Velocity at all. I doubt that a regular user expects 
macros to be executed at a different level than the other wiki markup.

> Look what the german wikipedia thinks about wiki syntax. No macros at all.
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe:Textgestaltung
>
> And the french version, discusses something which looks like "xwiki macros" 
> but they arent.
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Syntaxe

Comparing the XWiki wiki syntax with the one on wikipedia is not right. 
These are completely different wikis, with completely different purposes.

> There is no common sense what "Wiki syntax" means.
> So a better term would be helpful. However, it is not easy to find something 
> better, all I am thinking of are rather a sentence than a word.
>
>
> Stefan Bachert
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Vincent Massol<vinc...@massol.net>
> An: XWiki Users<users@xwiki.org>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 11:43:49 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] Macro in html-macro
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Stefan Bachert wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ok, I see it now, too.
>>
>> However, the attribute name "wiki" is very misleading.
>
> It's wiki as in wiki syntax. Macros **are** wiki syntax, otherwise you'd 
> never be able to use macros when you write wiki syntax!
>
> -Vincent
>
>> I still get no link for "wiki syntax" to "macro".
>> Maybe with internal knowledge this may brighten up.
>>
>> Stefan Bachert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Von: vmassol [via XWiki]<ml-node+4618020-1742651533-433...@n2.nabble.com>
>> An: Stefan Bachert<stefanbach...@yahoo.de>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 23. Februar 2010, 11:17:17 Uhr
>> Betreff: Re: Macro in html-macro
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Stefan Bachert wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I figured it out now.
>>>
>>> {{html wiki=true}}
>>> {{warning}}Warning{{/warning}}
>>> {{/html}}
>>>
>>> setting wiki=true will enable included macros, too.
>>> This is somewhat crude and not documented
>> How can you say it's not documented?
>> http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/HTMLMacro
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent


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