I agree with Partridge. We have different interpreters defined with different queues and settings. So we need a way to quickly change the default interpreter and can’t rely on typing the desired interpreter at the start of each paragraph.
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https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stT-RZWXFLybqeNov0Kan0Cx9rGrtROkS6OV6MOhcMBPt_Rfl-_H1C83vwzLxF9yYwvak6Ys54FEOBh84xdmt2aAQW1UYN7FyjxR-i4tcfIzqeCHMRwEvO3G63G ) On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 6:02 AM Jongyoul Lee < Jongyoul Lee ( Jongyoul Lee <jongy...@gmail.com> ) > wrote: > > It looks like a good idea to show the default interpreter group - and it > should be also changeable - and store it to `note.json`. It could remove > interpreter-binding information, keep default interpreter when extracting > note. Moreover it also helps to reduce our server code as well. > > > What do you guys think of? > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Sanjay Dasgupta < sanjay.dasgu...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> If there is no per-interpreter overhead of binding all the interpreters >> from the beginning, we should definitely do it. This will simplify the GUI >> somewhat. >> >> >> Regards, >> - Sanjay >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Partridge, Lucas (GE Aviation) < >> lucas.partri...@ge.com >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> “ So usually we would recommend user to specify the full qualified >>> interpreter name. ” >>> >>> >>> >>> - I usually recommend the exact opposite to our users. We frequently >>> change interpreter groups to allow for different Spark cluster settings >>> (number of executors, memory, etc). Users with more demanding requirements >>> are asked to use custom interpreter groups with more allocated resources. >>> If users included the interpreter group name at the start of every >>> paragraph they would then have to manually edit the start of every >>> paragraph before they could run their note using a different interpreter >>> group. Very tedious! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> But I agree the short names without the interpreter group are often >>> ambiguous and can cause confusion. Maybe somewhere in the execution >>> output of each paragraph there should be some discrete text giving the >>> fully qualified name of the interpreter that was actually used to produce >>> that output. Or a clearly defined ‘default interpreter group’ text in the >>> toolbar at the top of each notebook. Make it a dropdown so it would be >>> easy to change the default. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jeff Zhang < zjf...@gmail.com > >>> *Sent:* 06 July 2018 08:53 >>> *To:* users@zeppelin.apache.org >>> *Cc:* dev < d...@zeppelin.apache.org > >>> *Subject:* EXT: Re: [DISCUSS] Is interpreter binding necessary ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> We already allow setting default interpreter when creating note. Another >>> way to set default interpreter is to reorder the interpreter setting >>> binding in note page. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> But personally I don't recommend user to use short interpreter name >>> because of default interpreter. 2 Reaons: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. It introduce in-accurate info. e.g. In our product, we have 2 spark >>> interpreters (`spark`: for spark 1.x & `spark2` for spark 2.x). Then user >>> often specify `%spark` for spark interpreter. But it could mean both >>> `%spark.spark` and `%spark2.spark`, So usually it is very hard to tell >>> what's wrong when user expect to work spark2 but actually he still use >>> spark 1.x. So usually we would recommend user to specify the full >>> qualified interpreter name. Just type several more characters which just >>> cost 2 seconds but make it more clear and readable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. Another issue is that interpreter binding is stored in >>> interpreter.json, that means if they export this note to another zeppelin >>> instance, the default interpreter won't work. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> So I don't think setting default interpreter via interpreter binding is >>> valuable for users. If user really want to do that, I would suggest to >>> store it in note.json instead of interpreter.json >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jongyoul Lee < jongy...@gmail.com > 于 2018 年 7 月 6 日 周五 下午 3:36 写道： >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There are two purposes of interpreter binding. One is what you mentioned >>>> and another one is to manage a default interpreter. If we provide a new >>>> way to set default interpreter, I think we can remove them :-) We could >>>> set permissions in other ways. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Overall, +1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Jeff Zhang < zjf...@gmail.com > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I raise this thread to discuss whether we need the interpreter binding. >>>>> Currently when user create notes, they have to bind interpreters to their >>>>> notes in note page. Otherwise they will hit interpreter not found issue. >>>>> Besides that in zeppelin server side, we maintain the interpreter binding >>>>> info in memory as well as in interpreter.json. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, it is not necessary to do interpreter binding. Because it just add >>>>> extra burden to maintain the interpreter binding info in zeppelin server >>>>> side, and doesn't introduce any benefits. The only benefit is that we will >>>>> check whether user have permission to use this interpreter, but actually >>>>> zeppelin will check the permission when running paragraph, so I don't >>>>> think we need to introduce interpreter binding just for this kind of >>>>> permission check that we will do later. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So overall, I would suggest to remove interpreter binding feature. What >>>>> do you think ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 이종열 , Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://madeng.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈 http://madeng.net
