+1 to remove it Setting default interpreter is not very useful anyway (for example, we can't make %pyspark default without manually editing xml files in Zeppelin distro). https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZEPPELIN-3282
-- Ruslan Dautkhanov On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 7:27 AM Paul Brenner <pbren...@placeiq.com> wrote: > I agree with Partridge. We have different interpreters defined with > different queues and settings. So we need a way to quickly change the > default interpreter and can’t rely on typing the desired interpreter at the > start of each paragraph. > > > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stT-RZWW0TiJaTPs_IOYGlF1ZvI7h9Qb2g_eDdzcp6fWnRGMKU=> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stT-RZWW0TiJaTPs_IOYGlF1ZvI7h9Qb2g_eDdzcp6fWnRGMKU=> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stT-RZWW0TiJaTPs_IOYGlF1ZvI7h9Qb2g_eDdzcp6fWnRGMKU=> > *Paul > Brenner* > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stTsANWA0fiYqDXt-NFancGmYTJoNoEym-hk4ZudikiEh22ahQg0LL2> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stTsANWA0fiYqDXt-NFancGmYTJoNoEym-hk4ZudikiEh22ahQg0LL2> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stTsANWA0fiYqDXt-NFancGmYTJoNoEym-hk4ZudikiEh22ahQg0LL2> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stTsANWA0TifPrFs_IOa3cE3drGrtRO83LeA-sOurZBpe40Kl9Vs2ciD7HZiFQ=> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stTsANWA0TifPrFs_IOa3cE3drGrtRO83LeA-sOurZBpe40Kl9Vs2ciD7HZiFQ=> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stTsANWA0TifPrPu_8AbHwC2NrGrtROwHHSEO8pkpgUNczTb1OqOVPmpWhChtSWVFdvwywOLA==> > <https://share.polymail.io/v1/z/b/NWIzZjZkNTc0YWE0/kVB6OMitKz7Pqm5NuaQG4awyekI99c0gkhUdEDv2kriJlBnjhW1b_KV6uy_oCGrO25Ri9NpPRXrqb1oYLH5U3-CVKF4hGqzYaRjNEfcRIrXjFevdugvD0d2pmfVXx7uzGRDDgZjI9stTsANWA0TifPrPu_8AbHwC2NrGrtROwHHSEO8pkpgUNczTb1OqOVPmpWhChtSWVFdvwywOLA==> > SR. 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It could remove >> interpreter-binding information, keep default interpreter when extracting >> note. Moreover it also helps to reduce our server code as well. >> >> What do you guys think of? >> >> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Sanjay Dasgupta < >> sanjay.dasgu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If there is no per-interpreter overhead of binding all the interpreters >>> from the beginning, we should definitely do it. This will simplify the GUI >>> somewhat. >>> >>> Regards, >>> - Sanjay >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Partridge, Lucas (GE Aviation) < >>> lucas.partri...@ge.com> wrote: >>> >>>> “So usually we would recommend user to specify the full qualified >>>> interpreter name.” >>>> >>>> - I usually recommend the exact opposite to our users. We frequently >>>> change interpreter groups to allow for different Spark cluster settings >>>> (number of executors, memory, etc). Users with more demanding requirements >>>> are asked to use custom interpreter groups with more allocated resources. >>>> If users included the interpreter group name at the start of every >>>> paragraph they would then have to manually edit the start of every >>>> paragraph before they could run their note using a different interpreter >>>> group. Very tedious! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But I agree the short names without the interpreter group are often >>>> ambiguous and can cause confusion. Maybe somewhere in the execution output >>>> of each paragraph there should be some discrete text giving the fully >>>> qualified name of the interpreter that was actually used to produce that >>>> output. Or a clearly defined ‘default interpreter group’ text in the >>>> toolbar at the top of each notebook. Make it a dropdown so it would be easy >>>> to change the default. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* 06 July 2018 08:53 >>>> *To:* users@zeppelin.apache.org >>>> *Cc:* dev <d...@zeppelin.apache.org> >>>> *Subject:* EXT: Re: [DISCUSS] Is interpreter binding necessary ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We already allow setting default interpreter when creating note. >>>> Another way to set default interpreter is to reorder the interpreter >>>> setting binding in note page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But personally I don't recommend user to use short interpreter name >>>> because of default interpreter. 2 Reaons: >>>> >>>> 1. It introduce in-accurate info. e.g. In our product, we have 2 spark >>>> interpreters (`spark`: for spark 1.x & `spark2` for spark 2.x). Then user >>>> often specify `%spark` for spark interpreter. But it could mean both >>>> `%spark.spark` and `%spark2.spark`, So usually it is very hard to tell >>>> what's wrong when user expect to work spark2 but actually he still use >>>> spark 1.x. So usually we would recommend user to specify the full qualified >>>> interpreter name. Just type several more characters which just cost 2 >>>> seconds but make it more clear and readable. >>>> >>>> 2. Another issue is that interpreter binding is stored in >>>> interpreter.json, that means if they export this note to another zeppelin >>>> instance, the default interpreter won't work. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So I don't think setting default interpreter via interpreter binding is >>>> valuable for users. If user really want to do that, I would suggest to >>>> store it in note.json instead of interpreter.json >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jongyoul Lee <jongy...@gmail.com>于2018年7月6日周五 下午3:36写道： >>>> >>>> There are two purposes of interpreter binding. One is what you >>>> mentioned and another one is to manage a default interpreter. If we provide >>>> a new way to set default interpreter, I think we can remove them :-) We >>>> could set permissions in other ways. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Overall, +1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I raise this thread to discuss whether we need the interpreter binding. >>>> Currently when user create notes, they have to bind interpreters to their >>>> notes in note page. Otherwise they will hit interpreter not found issue. >>>> Besides that in zeppelin server side, we maintain the interpreter binding >>>> info in memory as well as in interpreter.json. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> IMHO, it is not necessary to do interpreter binding. Because it just >>>> add extra burden to maintain the interpreter binding info in zeppelin >>>> server side, and doesn't introduce any benefits. The only benefit is that >>>> we will check whether user have permission to use this interpreter, but >>>> actually zeppelin will check the permission when running paragraph, so I >>>> don't think we need to introduce interpreter binding just for this kind of >>>> permission check that we will do later. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So overall, I would suggest to remove interpreter binding feature. >>>> What do you think ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈 >>>> >>>> http://madeng.net >>>> >>>> >>> > > > -- > 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈 > http://madeng.net > >
