Australia has dropped he 1c coins.  The lowest denomnation is 5c.  If
anything is priced at less than a 5c increment, it has to be rounded down
to the nearest 5c.  Makes sense!

John F-L



> Steve (and others)
>
>
>
> In a number of European countries, the 1c and 2c coins are not used.
> Although prices often end with .99, the bill is rounded to the nearest 5c
> when it is totted up.  Thus on some occasions you might loose 1c or 2c,
> but
> on other occasions you will gain 1c or 2c.  In the long run the two
> balance
> each other out.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
> Of Stephen Humphreys
> Sent: 13 April 2010 11:57
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:47112] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication
>
>
>
> Welcome to our currency.  (well the £/p one at least!)
> Yes the sizes are a bit odd - eg the 2p is huge while the 5p is tiny!
> If you have any 2p's that are older than (guess) a few years then you'll
> hold coins that are worth more than their face value!  This is due to the
> price of copper going up.  A small 'interesting fact of the day' there.
>
> I also say they should dispense with 1p and 2p to hostile remarks from the
> other half.  The problem is most things get priced up with .99 at the end.
>
> I always prefer checkouts that have a charity box nearby!
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: carlet...@comcast.net
> To: barkatf...@hotmail.com; usma@colostate.edu
> Subject: RE: [USMA:47103] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:35:02 -0400
>
> Last spring when I was in the UK and Ireland I got slightly annoyed by the
> 2
> cent (Euro) and the 2 pence coin.  I wasn’t quite sure why they were
> needed,
> they made one too many to sort out.  1, 5, 10, 20 pence/cent, and 1 and 2
> pound/euro, would have been fine for the coins.   Also, the size increase
> wasn’t linear.
>
>
>
> Carleton
>
>
>
> From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
> Of Stephen Humphreys
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:23
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:47103] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication
>
>
>
> I have a single unit/item called a 20p coin.  5 of these and I will have
> £1.00.
> If I have a 50p coin I have half of £1  (£1 being 100 pence).
> I also have far too many 2p pieces.  Fifty of them make up a pound (£1)
> Rather nicer is this £20 note.  You can do the math(s) relating to all the
> other items above.
>
> If our currency was made up of just 1p pieces, £1 coins, £100 notes etc
> then
> you could just about start to apply metric principles to our currency and
> talk about decipounds, megapence, kilopounds etc.
>
> If I go to other countries I see similar attributes to their currency -
> although there is no currency which is stored in an office in Paris or
> whatever - although the dollar is the prototype of some currencies, you
> could say.
>
> Having said that, none of the other currencies have prefixes such as kilo,
> mega, etc either and none are based upon a scientific constant (in fact
> they
> change in value every minute of every day).
>
> Similarly I cannot divide or multiply my currency by another metric
> measure
> - although I suppose you could say that salary = X£/s
>
> "Decimal" is all that links our currency and metric measures.
>
> <Exit stage right>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: stevo.da...@btinternet.com
> To: usma@colostate.edu
> Subject: [USMA:47101] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:36:47 +0100
>
> Metric is base 10; decimal and decimal currency is base 10.
>
>
>
> Both divide up and down by units of 10:
>
>
>
> 5p - 50p - £5
>
>
>
> 5cm - 50cm - 500cm (or 5 metres).
>
>
>
> Both divide into decimal fractions of 10:
>
>
>
> £1.45 - £14.50 - £145
>
>
>
> 1.45cm - 14.5cm - 145cm (or 1 metre, 45cm)
>
>
>
> The only real difference is that you cannot divide decimal currency beyond
> the number 1.
>
>
>
> So, all in all, I would say decimal and metric are very similar indeed and
> work on the same principles.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Stephen <mailto:barkatf...@hotmail.com>  Humphreys
>
> To: U.S. Metric <mailto:usma@colostate.edu>  Association
>
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:46 PM
>
> Subject: [USMA:47088] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication
>
>
>
> You could also say that 'base-10' is the only thing that links metric and
> decimal currency.
>
>
>
> On other levels there is very little commonality - For example - you can
> have a mixture of unit-types happening concurrently.  In fact all
> countries
> are mixed unit (imp or USC and metric) - just to varying degrees, eg
> Germany
> has very little imperial - but still has it (BTU, inches) right up to the
> UK
> and then the US.  In the latter two countries you can see a large mix of
> units operating concurrently.
>
>
>
> You cannot have a decimal currency and a non-decimal currency running
> concurrently. Maybe during a transition there are 'equivalences' but this
> simply makes non-dec currency equivalent to a a dec one.
>
>
>
> Some people say that money is a 'measure' of wealth.  I think that's as
> far
> as the use of the word goes.
>
>
>
> Decimal and decimalization is a mathematical theory - ie 'decimal' is not
> a
> measurement.
>
> metric and metrication *is* a measurement topic.
>
>> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:24:48 +0100
>> From: tom.w...@tomwade.eu
>> Subject: [USMA:47087] Decimal currency & Metrication
>> To: usma@colostate.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> > I doubt it. Currency is different. It's not metricating. The
>> > equivalent in measures would be to make 10 inches = a foot etc (that's
>> > decimalisation) .
>>
>> Decimal currency predated the metric system, which is why there
>> are differences, but both decimal currency and metrication have a lot in
>> common - the main property being both align conversion of units/subunits
>> with the base numbering system. Since base 10 is universally used in
>> number representation (leaving aside computer internals), both
>> metrication and decimal currency achieve the same ease of conversion by
>> using tens and multiples of tens. Metrication is simply the appliance
>> of the principles of decimal currency to other forms of measure,
>> extending the range of multiples to suit varying magnitudes.
>>
>> Of course, it is in the interest of anti-metric campaigners to try and
>> paint metrication and decimalization as totally different concepts.
>> This is because decimal currency is widely accepted in the two main
>> metric hold-out countries. Pretty much every American is familiar with
>> converting between dollars and cents, and sees the correlation between
>> $1.24 and 124 cents without even thinking about it.
>>
>> A powerful argument in favor of metrication is that measuring your
>> height in metric as 1.74 m (or 174 cm) is exactly the same as dealing
>> with dollars and cents. For the far right jingoistic gun-toting
>> nationalists, you can point out that the metric system is simply the
>> application (and extension) of the American idea of applying decimal
>> principles to other forms of measurements. Once the US introduced
>> decimal currency (the first major currency to do so) it pretty much was
>> followed everywhere else. We should not lose the opportunity to draw
>> parallels between the two in the campaign for metrication in the US.
>>
>> For the UK, some people are old enough to remember the cumbersome twelve
>> pennies to the shilling an twenty shillings to the pound (which lasted
>> until 1971). It should be pointed out that if organizations like the
>> BWMA had their way in the seventies, people would still be struggling
>> with this nonsense. No doubt after metrication has been established for
>> a few years, people will look back on miles & pints with the same
>> curious bafflement at why people put up with it for so long.
>>
>> The parallels between metrication and decimal currencies are of major
>> importance in the campaign for metrication. They are *not* completely
>> different concepts, but two sides of the same coin (so to speak).
>>
>> Tom Wade
>>
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