Weird!  At http://www.bahn.com/i/view/DEU/en/trains/overview/ice.shtml, the 
same train is shown at 320 km/h.  I can only assume as you suggest that this 
particular page (and not the whole of the English language Bahn website) caters 
purely to the ignorant Brits.  Certainly all their other English language web 
pages use the correct km/h.

I too will write to them and point out their error.

John F-L
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Vlietstra 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 12:21 PM
  Subject: [USMA:49381] RE: High speed rail error


  The site that I was commenting about was 
http://www.bahn.com/i/view/GBR/en/about/overview/ice-in-london.shtml which 
quotes speeds of up to 320 kph[sic] between London and Cologne.

   


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  From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of 
John Frewen-Lord
  Sent: 01 January 2011 12:03
  To: U.S. Metric Association
  Subject: [USMA:49380] RE: High speed rail error

   

  On Bahn's website at 
http://www.bahn.com/i/view/DEU/en/trains/overview/ecic.shtml, which is in 
English, the speed of the trains described is shown as 200 km/h.

   

  John F-L

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Martin Vlietstra 

    To: U.S. Metric Association 

    Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:42 AM

    Subject: [USMA:49374] RE: High speed rail error

     

    I recently sent an e-mail to the Bundesbahn asking why they used the term 
"kph" rather than "km/h" on their English-language website.  It appears that 
they are pandering to the lowest level of British intelligence.

     


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    From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf 
Of Pat Naughtin
    Sent: 01 January 2011 00:36
    To: U.S. Metric Association
    Cc: USMA Metric Association
    Subject: [USMA:49368] High speed rail error

     

    Dear Carleton,

     

    I think you will be interested in this train story at 
http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/12/hsr-emissions-paper-was-wrong/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hsr-emissions-paper-was-wrong
 where they say:

     

    Berkeley's numbers are undone by a simple unit conversion error committed 
by a CHSRA consultant. Conversions between metric and imperial units are prone 
to errors and misunderstandings, most famously in the case of NASA's $300 
million Mars Climate Orbiter mission, which was inadvertently crashed into Mars 
because of an overlooked conversion between pounds and Newtons. In the case of 
the high-speed rail study, the CHSRA consultant's unit conversion error leads 
to an overestimate of HSR energy consumption by a factor of nearly four-not 
just in the Berkeley study, but also in the CHSRA's program level environmental 
reports.

    The energy consumption figure cited in the Berkeley study and its 
supplementary data is 170 kilowatt-hours per vehicle kilometer traveled, or 
kWh/VKT, a measure of how much energy a high-speed train consumes on average 
when traveling one kilometer. This number is correctly converted by Berkeley 
from a figure of 924,384 BTU/VMT referenced in the energy chapter of the 2008 
CHSRA program-level EIR. That chapter in turn references a peer-review study 
performed for CHSRA by the German firm DE-Consult in 2000, which evaluated the 
energy consumption of a hypothetical 16-car trainset with a seating capacity of 
1200 and a design speed of 385 km/h (240 mph) and an operating speed of 350 
km/h (220 mph), essentially a souped-up German ICE3. The DE-Consult study 
(unavailable online) contains detailed performance simulations for the proposed 
California system that give the average energy consumption of such a train as 
74.2 kWh/VMT, or 46 kWh/VKT (see copy of Annex 4-11). And therein lies the 
error: CHSRA's consultant botched the conversion from kilowatt-hours to British 
Thermal Units, feeding Berkeley a figure of 170 kWh/VKT instead of 46 kWh/VKT.

    I wonder why they were converting from British Thermal Units (no 
temperature specified) to kilowatt hours instead of (say) megajoules per 
kilometre (MJ/km). Clearly none of the consultant engineers has any sort of 
firm grasp on metrology -- VKT for vehicle kilometre travelled doesn't impress 
me as coming from a knowledgeable person who knows his SI from his toothbrush.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Pat Naughtin LCAMS

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