Iitre is the spelling in chrome attached to the vehicles themselves. On Jun 9, 2014 3:07 PM, "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> In the US or Europe? First place I looked shows that they use the symbol > (L) in engine nomenclature, but in specs they list displacement as liters > (and cubic inches). See > http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-1500-pickup-truck/specs/powertrain.html > > > On Monday, June 9, 2014 2:01 PM, Mark Henschel <mwhensch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yup, and the British pronounce aluminum as al-u-Min-ium. > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:23 PM, <cont...@metricpioneer.com> wrote: > > Again? Really? We have been over this topic before. > See the > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences > article. > -re, -er[edit] > In British English, some words from French, Latin or Greek end with a > consonant followed by -re, with the -re unstressed and pronounced /əɹ/.. In > American English, most of these words have the ending -er. The difference > is most common for words ending -bre or -tre: British spellings calibre, > centre, fibre, goitre, litre, lustre, manoeuvre, meagre, metre, mitre, > nitre, ochre, reconnoitre, sabre, saltpetre, sepulchre, sombre, spectre, > theatre (see exceptions) and titre all have -er in American spelling. > > Most English words that today use -er were spelled -re at one time or > another. In American English, almost all of these have become -er, while in > British English only some of them have. The latter include chapter, > December, disaster, enter, filter, letter, member, minister, monster, > November, number, October, oyster, powder, proper, September, sober and > tender. Words using the "-meter" suffix (from ancient Greek -μέτρον via > post-Classical Latin meter) have normally had the er spelling from earliest > use in English. Examples include thermometer and barometer. > > The e preceding the r is kept in American-derived forms of nouns and > verbs, for example, fibers, reconnoitered, centering, which are fibres, > reconnoitred and centring respectively in British English. Centring is an > interesting example, since it is still pronounced as three syllables in > British English (/ˈsɛntərɪŋ/), yet there is no vowel letter in the spelling > corresponding to the second syllable. It is dropped for other derivations, > for example, central, fibrous, spectral. However, such dropping cannot be > deemed proof of an -re British spelling: for example, entry and entrance > come from enter, which has not been spelled entre for centuries. > > The difference relates only to root words; -er rather than -re is > universal as a suffix for agentive (reader, winner, user) and comparative > (louder, nicer) forms. One outcome is the British distinction of meter for > a measuring instrument from metre for the unit of length. However, while > "poetic metre" is often -re, pentameter, hexameter etc. are always -er. - > End of article - > > Let us not let the American spelling of meter become an issue. Let us not > throw the [meter] baby out with the [American spelling] bath water. Let us > accept the bath water the way it is as long as we can get Americans to > officially adopt SI. Keep focused on the goal rather than being knit picky. > > ----- Message from Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> --------- > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 20:56:24 -0400 > From: Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> > Reply-To: harold_potsda...@cox.net > Subject: [USMA:53942] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > > “I tend to agree with the opinion that forcing British spelling will > make the SI LESS acceptable to Americans.” > > Is there some form of proof to back this claim up or is this just a > personal opinion? > > Can you supply any information that shows two different spellings for > metre within the same language? I can see that each language may spell it > differently according to their particular language rules, but the SI units > have one spelling in each language. Having a variation of spelling within > English to me can be a turn-off as it makes SI units appear divided and > inconsistent. It also makes the US look arrogant and haughty and the > creating a spelling difference has no logical basis other than a crude > attempt to create division within a coherent and consistent international > system. > > The US doesn’t even use SI in general practice and creating unnecessary > variations and interpretations from the rest of the English speaking world > makes it very apparent that the US is trying to damage the SI and not > adopt and spends more time coming up with phoney excuses instead of > general adoption. > > > > *From:* cont...@metricpioneer.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 2014-06-08 10:55 > *To:* U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> > *Subject:* [USMA:53940] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > > I tend to agree with the opinion that forcing British spelling will make > the SI LESS acceptable to Americans. The Chinese spell meter the Chinese > way - 計 (Traditional) and 计 (Simplified). The Russians spell meter the > Russian way - метр. Israelies spell meter in Hebrew - מטר. Spaniards spell > meter in Spanish - metro... In Indonesia they spell meter like Americans - > meter. In Greece they spell meter in Greek - μετρητής. Shall I go on? Check > out https://translate.google.com/ > > > ----- Message from "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> --------- > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 06:40:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> > Reply-To: "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [USMA:53937] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > > Well, the American version is the law. Congress amend the Metric Act > of 1866 to the current text in 2007. Copying the text from the USMA Metric > Laws page. The final phrase is an indirect reference to SP 330 which is > issued over signature of the SoC. Further, I think forcing British > spelling will make the SI LESS acceptable to Americans, the last thing we > need. > U.S. Code Title 15 > Commerce and Trade Chapter 6 > Weights and Measures and Standard Time Subchapter I > Weights, Measures, and Standards Generally Sec. 204. Metric system > authorized > It shall be lawful throughout the United States of America to employ the > weights and measures of the metric system; and no contract or dealing, or > pleading in any court, shall be deemed invalid or liable to objection > because the weights or measures expressed or referred to therein are > weights or measures of the metric system. Sec. 205. Metric system defined > The metric system of measurement shall be defined as the International > System of Units as established in 1960, and subsequently maintained, by the > General Conference of Weights and Measures, and as interpreted or modified > for the United States by the Secretary of Commerce. > > > > On Sunday, June 8, 2014 7:46 AM, Harold_Potsdamer < > harold_potsda...@cox.net> wrote: > > > > It would appear then that the NIST policy on using “American English” > instead of “International English” is designed to impair communication and > reduce the usefulness of a report. Seeing that we are trying to adopt the > International System of Units and not the American System of Units, we > should be promoting it using the version of English accepted in most of the > world. SI loses some of its international flavour when it is modified > based on location. > > > > *From:* Martin Vlietstra <vliets...@btinternet.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, 2014-06-08 01:24 > *To:* U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> > *Subject:* [USMA:53934] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > > It might be worthwhile citing the NIST document NIST SP 330 as well. > The Wikipedia article states “The United States National Institute of > Standards and Technology has produced a version of the CGPM document (NIST > SP 330) which clarifies local interpretation for English-language > publications that use American English”. > > Regards > > Martin Vlietstra > > *From:* owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] *On > Behalf Of* cont...@metricpioneer.com > *Sent:* 07 June 2014 23:37 > *To:* U.S. Metric Association > *Subject:* [USMA:53928] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > > Have a look at reference 83 in the Wikipedia article you share with us. > Here is a quote from it: > Henceforth it shall be the policy of the National Bureau of Standards to > use the units of the International System (SI), as adopted by the 11th > General Conference of Weights and Measures, except when the use of these > units would obviously impair communication or reduce the usefulness of a > report. > > See: http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html > > ----- Message from ezra.steinb...@comcast.net --------- > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 22:26:46 +0000 (UTC) > From: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net > Reply-To: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net > Subject: [USMA:53927] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > Cc: USMA <usma@colostate.edu> > > The only problem with "international system" is that it is extremely > generic. There are many international systems of XXX in the world today, so > not using the complete name leaves a lot of ambiguity, unforuntately. > > *From:* cont...@metricpioneer..com <cont...@metricpioneer.com> > > *To:* "USMA" <usma@colostate.edu> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 7, 2014 3:22:28 PM > *Subject:* [USMA:53926] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > > Yes Ezra. Your statement is correct, however, just as the symbol for > International System is SI (after the French initials) so too I think it is > better not to overload Americans with too many words. Most Americans > erroneously still know SI as metric system, a term that I think no one > still uses (except for Americans). The symbol is not SIU. The symbol is SI, > so SI literally represents the two words - Système International - which > translates into English - International System. This way, Americans who > might hate the metric system might get the idea that the International > System is something newer and better, which it actually is, after all. What > term do you all use when you discuss SI? Do you say SI? Do you say metric > system? Do you say International System? Do you say International System of > units? Or do you speak French? I would love to know. By the way, I > typically say International System when I discuss the matter with people. > (Sometimes I have to explain that the former term metric system had expired > in 1960...) > > > ----- Message from ezra.steinb...@comcast.net --------- > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 21:51:13 +0000 (UTC) > From: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net > Reply-To: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net > Subject: [USMA:53925] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > Cc: USMA <usma@colostate.edu> > > But isn't the official name of the modern metric system "International > System of Units" (English translation of *Le Système international > d'unités*)? > > See for example > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units > > Regards, > Ezra > > *From:* cont...@metricpioneer..com <cont...@metricpioneer.com> > > *To:* "USMA" <usma@colostate.edu> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:45:08 PM > *Subject:* [USMA:53924] Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > > Below please see (1) LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL message to my government > representative Cameron and (2) Denyc Boles message to me and (3) my reply. > Please have a look at attached pdf of LC0044_DRAFT_2015_Regular_Session and > LC0044_BB_2015_Regular_Session and let me know what you think. For those of > you who may not remember, I submitted leglislation to the Oregon government > that is modelled on that of Hawaii HB36. I am so happy that this finally > got drafted. When I got notice about foot dragging, I wrote a letter to > Governor Kitzhaber; I have no idea whether my letter to governor was the > cause of getting them to move forward on this. > > ----- Message from cont...@metricpioneer.com --------- > Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:26:02 -0700 > From: cont...@metricpioneer.com > Subject: Re: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > To: Boles Denyc <mailto:denyc.bo...@state..or.us > <denyc.bo...@state..or.us>> > > The metric system became the International System in 1960, so that old > terminology is out of date. Please change all metric system references in > LC 44 to International System. Is that possible? Thanks a million for > getting this drafted. I am so happy! Please reply to let me know that you > got this message. > > ----- Message from Boles Denyc <denyc.bo...@state.or.us> --------- > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 21:43:40 +0000 > From: Boles Denyc <denyc.bo...@state.or.us> > Subject: FW: YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > To: "cont...@metricpioneer.com" <cont...@metricpioneer.com> > > David – > > Yay, we finally got the draft.. Please review it and let me know what you > think. Right now HD 19 is in transition as Rep. Cameron was sworn in as a > Marion County Commissioner earlier this week. But I will make sure that > the process continues in the interim. > > Sincerely, > > Denyc Boles > Transition Staff > House District 19 > 503-986-1419 > > > > *From:* LC Delivery > *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2014 2:28 PM > *To:* Rep Cameron > *Subject:* YOUR LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL REQUEST - LC0044 > > Attached is your completed request from Legislative Counsel... Please > review your draft or amendment for accuracy. If you require any changes, > you may submit them electronically to lc.requ...@state.or.us or bring a > hard copy to our office, S-101. > If a bill back is attached and you have questions, please contact either > the Chief Clerk’s office (6-1870) or the Secretary of the Senate (6-1851) > for clarification. > > > > > ----- End message from Boles Denyc <denyc.bo...@state.or.us> ----- > > David Pearl http://www.metricpioneer.com/ 503-428-4917 > > > > > ----- End message from cont...@metricpioneer.com ----- > > David Pearl http://www.metricpioneer.com/ 503-428-4917 > > > > > > ----- End message from ezra.steinb...@comcast.net ----- > > David Pearl http://www.metricpioneer.com/ 503-428-4917 > > > > > > ----- End message from ezra.steinb...@comcast.net ----- > David Pearl http://www.metricpioneer.com/ 503-428-4917 > > > > > > > ----- End message from "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> ----- > > David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com <http://www.metricpioneer.com/> > 503-428-4917 > > > > > ----- End message from Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> ----- > > David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com <http://www.metricpioneer.com/> > 503-428-4917 > > > > >
