In my examples below, the confusion arises in fonts, not in handwriting. It might be added that in sans serif fonts, the capital eye (I) generally looks like the lowercase el and often like the numeral one too.
On 7/2/15 3:40 PM, "Martin Vlietstra" <vliets...@btinternet.com> wrote: >The problem of confusion between hand-written "one" and "el" only arises >in >Anglo-Saxon countries. If you visit >https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FM_IMG_2024.JPG you can see how >the >French write a "one" at a market stall. It was in recognition of this >problem that the SI Manual permits both lower-case and upper-case "el" as >the symbol for the litre. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf >Of Patrick Moore >Sent: 02 July 2015 19:36 >To: U.S. Metric Association >Subject: [USMA:54766] Re: labeling 1-liter bottles of Perrier > >Lowercase el is ambiguous because it looks like the numeral one. I see no >advantage in the lowercase el for liter. > >In my first month on the job as an editor, 30 years ago, I corrected >several >dozen places where the typographer had entered an el to mean one. It was >an >old habit in someone who had learned to type on an old pica typewriter, >where the same keystroke made both characters. In the Courier font on your >computer today, el and one still look very similar. > >Cubic decimeter is a useful alternative for calculations of nonliquid >volumes. > >From: <mechtly>, eugene a ><mech...@illinois.edu<mailto:mech...@illinois.edu>> >Reply-To: "mech...@illinois.edu<mailto:mech...@illinois.edu>" ><mech...@illinois.edu<mailto:mech...@illinois.edu>> >Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 12:11 PM >To: "U.S. Metric Association" ><usma@colostate.edu<mailto:usma@colostate.edu>> >Cc: "U.S. Metric Association" ><usma@colostate.edu<mailto:usma@colostate.edu>> >Subject: [USMA:54765] Re: labeling 1-liter bottles of Perrier > >In the Netherlands it it "1 Liter"; in Germany, "1 l", all three. Thanks >Martin. >On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:39 AM, Martin Vlietstra ><vliets...@btinternet.com<mailto:vliets...@btinternet.com>> wrote: > >Hi Stanislav, >I don't know about bottling plants, but "L" is often used when advertising >Perrier water in Europe. > >I have a selection of advertisements, some of which show "L" and some of >which show "l": > >United Kingdom: >http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=274501973 >http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?productId=50549 >http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/sparkling-water/perrier-spar >kl >ing-mineral-water-750ml > >Netherlands: >http://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi198722/perrier-mineraalwater-koolzuur >ho >udend > >Germany: >http://www.amazon.de/PERRIER-nat%C3%BCrliches-kohlens%C3%A4urehaltiges-Min >er >alwasser-Frankreich/dp/B0051BLCCI >http://german.alibaba.com/product-tp/perrier-mineral-water-for-export-fob- >eu >rope-117971051.html >http://www.kaufen.com/Preisvergleich/result.jsp?ga=g37&q=mineralwasser+per >ri >er > >France: >http://www.carrefour.fr/search/site/--perrier/15 >http://www.auchandirect.fr/boissons/eaux/eaux-gazeuses/id0/663 >It should be remembered that in Continental Europe, the hand-written >number >1 usually has a long leading stroke - see for example the picture at >https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FM_IMG_2024.JPG<https://urldefense >.p >roofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__commons.wikimedia.org_wiki_File-3AFM-5FIM >G- >5F2024.JPG&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=BpxbfWo0gcPQHL0R58p0D96tVlz >Zl >sjR_iWGK6ETi80&m=sOg077__2SoziT2D6rMe_Mp9fMHkenze5ohZNL-PNiA&s=MlvlrexBixw >B4 >ACIZZVyfjuQbaDnIibsAVbRxzccDAk&e=>. > >Martin > >From: owner-u...@colostate.edu<mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu> >[mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Stanislav Jakuba >Sent: 02 July 2015 00:03 >To: U.S. Metric Association >Cc: U.S. Metric Association >Subject: [USMA:54762] Re: labeling 1-liter bottles of Perrier > >Paul: >The European bottles-filling plant had never seen L as symbol for dm3. >Always the l (lower case "el"). You might have a better success with that. > > >On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:13 PM, mechtly, eugene a ><mech...@illinois.edu<mailto:mech...@illinois.edu>> wrote: >Paul, > >Let us know when Perrier labels one liter bottles as 1 L. > >I drink all my water from a tap, not from a bottle, so I will not detect >this improvement by Perrier. > >Eugene Mechtly > >> On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Paul Trusten ><trus...@grandecom.net<mailto:trus...@grandecom.net>> wrote: >> >> >> Dear Perrier makers, >> >> Please place the "1 L" in large type on your one-liter bottles! I >>suppose >you have to include the fluid ounces for auld lang syne, but I want to be >able to tell the difference between the 1 L and the 750 mL sizes AT A >GLANCE, and can't do that with ounces and quarts cluttering up tge field. >If, as you say on your Web site, your 1 L size is popular, then please >reflect this popularity on your label design. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul Trusten >> Midland TX USA >> > > >
