Hello Derek,

I got you. Thank you.

I have one more question, where can I specify default bit stream location?

What happen now is that by calling

uhd_usrp_probe –args =”fpga=/path/to/image.lvbitx”

I am able to flash USRP with RFNoC design. However, after I run gnuradio 
fosphor program it again roles
back to previous bitstream. Which is logical based on your advices.

However where can I specify path to default bitstream. In which file I should 
do it?

Thx for comments related to 10Gbe. Then I think we will need to order also 10 
Gbe interface.

Kind Regards,

Tarik Kazaz

From: Derek Kozel [mailto:derek.ko...@ettus.com]
Sent: dinsdag 30 januari 2018 11:50
To: Tarik Kazaz
Cc: Martin Braun; USRP-users@lists.ettus.com
Subject: Re: [USRP-users] NI USRP / PCIe interface and RFNoC FPGA images

Hi Tarik,
Your steps are based on the misunderstanding of how the image loading occurs in 
each of these scenarios.
When using PCIe the FPGA will always be reloaded from the host computer. Every 
program you run using the PCIe link needs the "fpga=/path/to/image.lvbitx" 
string added to the device arguments. The image loading is very fast compared 
to other methods. For example:
uhd_usrp_probe --args="fpga=/path/to/image.lvbitx"
When using JTAG an image is loaded into RAM on the FPGA. This will be 
overwritten if PCIe is used and forgotten (the RAM will clear) when the device 
is turned off. This is useful for rapid testing when using Ethernet connections 
since JTAG is faster than writing to flash, and for recovering when an image 
with an error has been written to the flash.
When using the uhd_image_loader the image is written to flash and will be used 
the next time the device is turned off and on again. This is useful for loading 
a persistent image when using the Ethernet interfaces. PCIe will still load and 
use an image from the host every time.
Can you please try the uhd_usrp_probe with the device arguments specifying the 
FPGA image to use?

As for 2x10 GigE vs PCIe, No, they do not have the same throughput. The PCIe is 
equivalent to 1x 10 GigE. In order to get the full bandwidth of the X3x0, which 
is 2x 200 MS/s on receive, you would need to use both 10 GigE connections.
https://kb.ettus.com/X300/X310#Choosing_a_Host_Interface
Regards,
Derek

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Tarik Kazaz via USRP-users 
<usrp-users@lists.ettus.com<mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>> wrote:
Hello Martin,

I hope I am replying now correctly (I am using reply all to you and mailing 
list).
I am still not able to flash RFNoC bit stream on FPGA. Here is what I am doing:

1. First step - Check status of device

    Call:                       uhd_usrp_probe
    Output:                   [INFO] [X300] Using LVBITX bitfile 
/home/cas-sdr/rfnoc/share/uhd/images/usrp_x310_fpga_XG.lvbitx...
                                  ...
                                  |   |   |       RFNoC blocks on this device:
                                  |   |   |
                                  |   |   |   * DmaFIFO_0
                                  |   |   |   * Radio_0
                                  |   |   |   * Radio_1
                                  |   |   |   * DDC_0
                                  |   |   |   * DDC_1
                                  |   |   |   * DUC_0
                                  |   |   |   * DUC_1

2. Second step: Load new FPGA image - usrp_x310_fpga_RFNOC_XG.lvbitx:

    Call:                       uhd_image_loader 
--args="type=x300,RESOURCES=RIO0" --fpga-path="/xyz/xyz/rfnoc/share/uhd/images
                                                                         
/usrp_x310_fpga_RFNOC_XG.lvbitx"

    Output:
                                  [INFO] [UHDlinux; GNU C++ version 4.8.4; 
Boost_105400; UHD_4.0.0.rfnoc-devel-409-gec9138eb]
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopping...
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopped.
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopping...
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopped.
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopping...
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopped.
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopping...
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopped.
                                  Unit: USRP X310 (3114FC4, RIO0)
                                  FPGA Image: 
/xyz/xyz/rfnoc/share/uhd/images/usrp_x310_fpga_RFNOC_XG.lvbitx
                                  -- Loading XG FPGA image (this will take 5-10 
minutes)...[INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopping...
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopped.

                                  ....After few minutes I get:
                                  successful.
                                  Power-cycle the USRP X310 to use the new 
image.
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopping...
                                  [INFO] [NIRIO] rpc_client stopped.

3. Third step: power cycle USRP and PC

    Call:                       sudo /usr/local/bin/niusrprio_pcie stop
                                  Power cycle USRP
                                  Power cycle PC


4. Forth step: power up USRP and PC, check status of USRP

   Call:                      Power UP USRP
                                Power UP PC
                               uhd_usrp_probe
    Output:                   [INFO] [X300] Using LVBITX bitfile 
/home/cas-sdr/rfnoc/share/uhd/images/usrp_x310_fpga_XG.lvbitx...
                                  ...
                                  |   |   |       RFNoC blocks on this device:
                                  |   |   |
                                  |   |   |   * DmaFIFO_0
                                  |   |   |   * Radio_0
                                  |   |   |   * Radio_1
                                  |   |   |   * DDC_0
                                  |   |   |   * DDC_1
                                  |   |   |   * DUC_0
                                  |   |   |   * DUC_1


So, what I am doing wrong?

In general I would like to ask you do suggest usage of PCIe or 10GBe interface 
with USRP X series?

In terms of throughput between PC and USRP, PCIe and 2x 10GBe interface should 
be same  or I am wrong?

I am asking this because I am working with UWB sampling and compressed sampling 
(high throughput is important, especially for Rx side)
My configuration of USRP consists of 2 UBX cards together with X310.

Maybe I can try to flash usrp_x310_fpga_RFNOC_XG.lvbitx over jtag with Xilinx 
tools. However, I do not think .lvbitx is supported with xilinx tools.

Thanks once again,
Kind Regards,
Tarik









________________________________________
From: Martin Braun [martin.br...@ettus.com<mailto:martin.br...@ettus.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:23 AM
To: Tarik Kazaz; 'USRP-users@lists.ettus.com<mailto:USRP-users@lists.ettus.com>'
Subject: Re: [USRP-users] NI USRP / PCIe interface and RFNoC FPGA images

Tarik,

please remember to keep responses on the mailing list, lest they get lost.

Yeah, just add fpga=/path/to/image.lvbitx to your device args.

-- M

On 01/29/2018 09:56 PM, Tarik Kazaz wrote:
> Hello Martin,
>
> Could you provide me more detailed instruction, how to disable PCIe to reload 
> image.
>
> I think instead of .bit, I should flash it with .lvbit if I want to use USRP
> over PCIe with RFNoC? Or I am wrong.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Tarik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: USRP-users 
> [mailto:usrp-users-boun...@lists.ettus.com<mailto:usrp-users-boun...@lists.ettus.com>]
>  On Behalf Of Martin Braun via USRP-users
> Sent: maandag 29 januari 2018 20:46
> To: usrp-users@lists.ettus.com<mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>
> Subject: Re: [USRP-users] NI USRP / PCIe interface and RFNoC FPGA images
>
> On 01/29/2018 07:37 PM, Tarik Kazaz via USRP-users wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am just starting to use RFNoC and I am a bit confused with hardware
>> compatibility for RFNoC development.
>>
>> In order to describe my setup I will list items below:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.       I have NI USRP RIO (equivalent of X310 with integrated GPS
>> module)
>>
>> 2.       I am connecting it with PC over PCIe interface
>>
>>
>>
>> I tried to flash USRP with RFNoC *usrp_x310_fpga_RFNOC_XG.bit* image.
>> However, after I power cycle USRP
>>
>> and execute *uhd_usrp_probe* seems that fpga is again flashed with NI
>> USRP as it contains *only DDCs, DMA and Radio*
>>
>> *RFNoC blocks*.
>>
>>
>>
>> In general I am confused what is a right RFNoC image for setup
>> consisting of USRP connected with PC over PCIe interface.
>>
>> Should I *use XG RFNoC FPGA images*? Are RFNoC images compatible with
>> PCIe interface?
>
> Yeah, but PCIe does reload images on every run. If you specify 
> fpga=/path/to/rfnoc_image.bit, it'll pick that.
>
>
> -- M
>
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