But, wouldn't your previous comment apply regarding the logic inverting the
spi clock every (divider+1) clock cycles such that a full spi clock cycle
would consume 2*(divider+1) radio clock cycles?  If so, then this explains
what I see and the only issue is that the equation in the manual needs
modified by a factor of 2 and perhaps some additional info added regarding
how the user would know what the underlying clock rate is (is it the
master_clock, the radio_clock, etc.).

If this is not the case, I can open an issue. BTW, I am using UHD 4.8.
Rob

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 11:17 AM Wade Fife <[email protected]> wrote:

> Rob,
>
> I don't know why you're seeing that behavior. The radio_clk does actually
> run at 122.88 MHz in your case but the clock driving the SPI controller is
> twice that rate, so I would expect it to result in SPI_clk = 245.76 MHz /
> (divider + 1).
>
> Which UHD version are you using?
>
> I suggest opening an issue on https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/issues.
> If you can, share your code for configuring the SPI rate and the the
> oscilloscope screen shot.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wade
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 8:25 PM Rob Kossler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Wade,
>> Thanks for the response. Here are the answers:
>> - here is the URL
>> <https://files.ettus.com/manual/page_x400_gpio_api.html#x4x0_spi_r_w>
>> for the equation in the UHD manual
>> - I am using the X410 with UC_200 FPGA image with master clock rate of
>> 245.76 MHz
>> - The function usrp->get_radio_control()->get_rate() returns 245.76 MHz
>> - The SPI clock as seen on my oscilloscope is half the rate I expect from
>> the equation if I use 245.76 MHz
>> - I wasn't sure if the factor of 2 was because of the half-cycle issue
>> you mentioned or if it had something to do with the radio clock perhaps
>> running at 122.88 MHz with 2 samples per cycle.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 4:37 PM Wade Fife <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually it looks like X410 and X440 use different clocks for the SPI
>>> core. Can you confirm which device you saw this on and what master clock
>>> rate you're using?
>>>
>>> For X410 with 200 MHz bandwidth, for example, I think the "Radio_Clk"
>>> value you should use in that original equation in the documentation is
>>> 245.76 MHz or 250 MHz, depending on your master clock rate. So:
>>>
>>>     SPI_clk = 245.76 MHz / (divider + 1)
>>>
>>> What value was returned by usrp->get_radio_control()->get_rate()?
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 2:41 PM Wade Fife <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>
>>>> I believe the underlying code that implements this is here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/c354764c93b49c90be08958f942b9bcb7704cbd5/fpga/usrp3/lib/control/simple_spi_core.v#L182
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the clock is inverted every divider+1 cycles, meaning
>>>> divider+1 is half the SPI clock period, not the full period. If so, the
>>>> frequency of the SPI clock would actually be (Radio_Clk / (divider + 1)) /
>>>> 2.
>>>>
>>>> That seems to agree with what you're seeing? Just to confirm, can you
>>>> share the URL for the documentation with this equation?
>>>>
>>>> Wade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 4:25 PM Rob Kossler via USRP-users <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The equation in the UHD manual for the X410 SPI clock rate is:
>>>>>   SPI_clk = Radio_clk / (divider + 1)
>>>>> However, I'm seeing half of that rate if I use the function:
>>>>>   Radio_clk = usrp->get_radio_control()->get_rate();
>>>>> Note that this returns the sample rate.  I'm wondering if maybe the
>>>>> radio clock rate is half of the sample rate because it processes multiple
>>>>> samples per clock cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, basically, my question is: what function or functions should I
>>>>> call to determine the Radio clock rate needed for the equation above? Or 
>>>>> is
>>>>> the equation wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
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