On Tue, 8 Jan 2019, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
I don't understand why people are trying to reinvent the wheel when we
just defined a fairly round one a few months ago.

DANE and MTA-STS provide an evolutionary and backwards compatible path for the 
transition to fully encrypted and authenticated email flows for those that 
care, but cannot force anyone to care and deploy them. What we are discussing 
is whether we could collectively exert gentle pressure (i.e. encrypt your email 
by this date or you won't be allowed to communicate any more) so that even 
those that don't care start to care.

The reports from MTA-STS give us a baseline. It's a lot easier to propose a flag day if you can credibly say that 98% of all non-bot mail uses TLS now.

Regards,
John Levine, [email protected], Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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