On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 at 00:18, Michael Richardson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> tirumal reddy <[email protected]> wrote:
>     >> In the building automation space, I'm concerned.
>     >> There are fewer consortia, and the people producing equipment are
> less
>     >> network focused.
>     >>
>     >> I propose that we wait for LAMPS to finish composite-kem, and then
> we
>     >> start a
>     >> quantum-safe version of iot-profile.
>
>     > If you are referring to
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-kem/,
> TLS
>     > only uses composite KEM for ephemeral key exchange and KEM-based
>     > authentication is not adopted by the TLS WG.
>
> okay, so fair enough...
> We can't finish a quantum-safe version of iot-profile until TLS has
> something
> that we can reference.  We can start it.
>
> Are you agreeing that we shouldn't do quantum-safety in this document?
>

Yes, see if you can reference to draft-ietf-pquip-pqc-hsm-constrained in
Section 21 to signal awareness of ongoing work in adapting PQC to
constrained environments. However, this draft may take time to mature, and
I don’t want it to delay progress here.

Cheers,
-Tiru


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> Michael Richardson <[email protected]>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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