> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Werner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 14:45
> To: BYU Unix Users Group
> Subject: Re: [uug] Installfest review
> 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> > Ross Werner wrote:
> > > Now this Mandrake-install-partition-resizer ... does it have a 
> > > name? Is it available not-as-part-of-Mandrake?
> >
> > It's really just fips and ntfsresize and parted cobbled into their 
> > installer. QTParted is a not-part-of-mandrake thing that uses 
> > exactly the same tools. Knoppix has it so you can use knoppix to 
> > do everything you might do with Partition Magic. I still prefer PM 
> > because I feel safer that way.
>  
> People always sound so paranoid about losing data when 
> repartitioning. I've only repartitioned a couple of drives, always 
> with the Mandrake installer and I've never used Partition Magic, so 
> I'm not really experienced on this. So I want to ask kind of a poll 
> question:
>
> How many of you have messed up a hard drive/lost data by using 
> Partition Magic? by using other non-PM repartitioning tools? 
> (Please note I'm not talking about things like a power outage in the 
> middle of a repartition--actually the program messing up itself.)
> 
> Just curious,
>   ~ Ross

I've never lost data or messed up a drive using Partition Magic from
a boot floppy.  I have, however, rendered drives unbootable when using
Partition Magic from within Windows NT/2000.  It's been a while since
I tried it (I think PM 6 was the last time), but the technique was
infallible: try to resize the partition from which the system was
booted, and it would not boot from that partition again without much
effort using external rescue tools.

Unfortunately, most of my experience with non-PM partitioning tools is 
with fdisk, which is unconditionally guaranteed to lose data :)  I do 
feel safer with PM than with any of the [F|f]ree stuff when working 
with NTFS volumes, though -- enough so that I haven't cared to try any 
of the [F|f]ree stuff on an NTFS volume at all.

fips and parted do seem to be pretty reliable with FAT, but I haven't 
used FAT for anything important for a very long time anyway.  If I 
found a [F|f]ree tool that worked reliably with NTFS, EXT2 and XFS, 
preferably bootable from CD or floppy and with a nice GUI, I'd use it 
over PM or anything else (at least, until PM gets XFS support... which 
I don't see happening anytime soon.)

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