On Thu 16 Sep 2004 at 22:31:28, Josh Coates said: > > >This is an interesting statement I've heard many, many times about Michael > >Moore's films, especially F911. Just out of curiosity, how many people > here > >*have* seen F911? > > soren, i hope you are not implying that my statements about moore are not > valid because i haven't seen his most recent film.
No, but I'm saying you're passing judgment on something which you haven't experienced yourself. There are a lot of people -- including members of the Bush Administration -- who have said, "I haven't seen the movie, but I know it's full of lies." Well, that doesn't really give you much of a leg to stand on. At best, it's saying "I don't form my own opinions. I listen to someone else." At worst, it's saying "I'm not going to listen to you because I've pre-judged you and decided you're a liar, and therefore nothing you say is of merit." One of the essential elements of making a good argument is showing that you're well versed in the argument of the other side. > also, soren, i don't mean to pick on you, but since you responded to my > comments, i'll ask: dont you think michael moore is just a *mean* person? > have you seen bowling for columbine? is f911 the only moore film you have > watched? have you read his books? Movies of his I've seen: Roger & Me The Big One Bowling for Columbine (which I agree is probably his worst) Fahrenheit 9/11 Books of his I've read: Idiot Nation As for being a "mean" person, no. Mean people do what they do simply out of spite and for the sheer personal pleasure of destruction. Michael Moore -- despite what Michael Wilson, director of "Michael Moore Hates America" will tell you -- doesn't do what he does to be destructive. He's tactless, confrontational, abrasive, intrusive, and at times reckless, but he isn't mean. He's trying to better the world, just in a method outside our social norms. -- Soren Harward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://theboard.byu.edu/ "Americans are always attempting to run away from conformity, but unfortunately they always start running in the same direction." -- Art Buchwald
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