Lloyd Brown wrote:
Scott Robertson wrote:http:/phantom2.cs.byu.edu/~uug/charter.php http:/phantom2.cs.byu.edu/~uug/about.phpThe charter (not surprisingly) leaves the website alone. Heck, one of the most powerful checks in place on the president is having to deal with flamewars directed at them. :)The charter is a bit outdated, and needs to be updated to better reflect how the club has run for the past 4-5 years. It is a pain to update the charter.I think the next president should work on this with his officers, then get input from past presidents, then the list in general.ScottThanks, Scott. That actually helped quite a bit.I have to disagree with you about the charter leaving the website alone, though. It seems to me that pretty much all of section 3.4, about conducting business for the club *might* apply. I'm personally a little on-the-fence about whether or not the ad issue is "business for the whole club", but there's no question that it ought to be clarified. Certainly the leadership shouldn't have to take a vote for every little decision, but the charter isn't clear what types of decisions should and shouldn't require a vote.Oh, and in light of the elections, section 3.3.2 is pretty interesting. Oh, and 3.3.6 too. Section 2.1 probably needs adjusting to include alumni. When changes are made, though, we need to make sure we follow section 3.4's guidelines.
It's been a few years since I've read the charter, but I think that this whole website incident just went swimmingly. I'm actually being serious. I mean, what really happened? An ad was placed on the website. People reacted (some might say "over-reacted", but it's not my place to judge, so I'll just keep those comments to myself :)), and the ad was removed. Seems like the system works.
You might say that the club functions in a republican manner, where the general membership retains the power of referendum. We have voted for a Webmaster. I expect the webmaster to master the web in the way that he best sees fit, attempting to keep in line with the general philosophies of the current club body, but still using his personal judgment in fulfilling his duties. In other words, I don't want to be voting on style-sheet details.
That said, it is in accordance with the charter that (if I recall correctly) any club member may raise an issue on the mailing-list, and engage the list in a vote to create new policies (such as, no flash ads on the club website).
I'm glad that somebody was interested in improving things enough to put forth the effort to have that ad placed on the website. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. If I were Dr. Sbaitso, I might say, "Ooo ooo ooo, my chips are melting." (500 brownie points to whomever can explain that reference.) Still, I would have rather seen those efforts go into something else, as I too am not a fan of flash ads on our website. That is why I'm also glad to see people speaking up to have the ads removed. Huzzah for good citizenship.
I must be very tired, in order to be writing something like this to the list, so please excuse my lapse in judgment. See you all in August.
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