Valum is awesome, and I was considering it for a while but we have decided
to use Elixir/Phoenix for our web backends (for obvious reasons if you are
designing a soft-realtime software).

But I keep it in mind and I won't be suprised if it would have been used in
some of our microservices later on.

Marcin

2016-06-15 22:30 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Poirier-Morency <
guillaumepoiriermore...@gmail.com>:

> I just want to state that I'm in perfect agreement with you Marcin.
>
> Rust might be a good system programming language, but it's clearly not
> ready for the needs of a product like RadioKit.
>
> Vala is a good language with incredible C binding capabilities and
> really nice set of semantics. It has direct access to GTK and
> GStreamer, unlike what you would have with GIR and pose reasonable
> overhead over GObject C.
>
> Rewritting a working codebase because of a language hype is silly,
> especially as it would result in a considerably lower utility.
>
> Yet, Rust is a really nice language with a bright future and I think it
> should inpire us putting some efforts on making Vala safer.
>
> Suit yourself,
>
> N.B. RadioKit looks really amazing and I really wish I could be part of
> it, but obligations forbids. Maybe Valum could be handy?
>
> Le mercredi 15 juin 2016 à 22:03 +0200, mar...@saepia.net a écrit :
> > I don't say Rust is wrong. I don't even say it's worse than Vala or
> > less
> > promising. There are just much more popular languages than Rust that
> > fail
> > to maintain stable bindings to C libraries, including one I am
> > interested
> > of the most (GStreamer).
> >
> > As long as this https://crates.io/search?q=gst returns nothing and
> > this
> > https://crates.io/search?q=glib returns bunch of immature projects,
> > it's
> > just not an option. I am not going to spend half of my budget & time
> > for
> > rewriting something that works perfectly in Vala just becuse some
> > language
> > appears to be promising.
> >
> > Marcin
> >
> >
> > 2016-06-15 3:57 GMT+02:00 Daogang <daogangt...@126.com>:
> >
> > > don't care that, I just mention it.
> > >
> > > Rust is the most promising language in the coming 15 years,
> > > https://www.rust-lang.org/.
> > >
> > > It is a system language, as c, c++, vala, but has more and more
> > > powerful
> > > theory basis than vala. It can reduce runtime bug significantly for
> > > its
> > > safty feature.
> > >
> > > If let me choose, I want to recommand all elementary work
> > > transfering to
> > > rust.  :)  just keep your own direction.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gang Tang, Nothing is impossible.
> > > +86 152 8102 0829
> > >
> > > Mamiwenwen.com, Chengdu, China.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 在2016年06月14 23时09分, "Al Thomas"<astav...@yahoo.co.uk>写道:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Daogang <daogangt...@126.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2016, 13:58
> > > Subject: Re: [Vala] Seeking for Vala programmer
> > >
> > >
> > > can consider rust lang? i think it is promissing.
> > >
> > >
> > > An advantage of Vala is it has first class bindings to a large
> > > number of
> > > excellent projects, e.g. GStreamer, Gtk+.
> > > A quick search on Rust found this tutorial dated December 2015, but
> > > now
> > > advises "This guide is no longer compatible with the current
> > > codebase and
> > > thus will be rewritten in the future.":
> > >
> > > https://mmstickman.wordpress.com/2015/12/12/phoronix-reader-rust-pr
> > > ogramming-tutorial/
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.gitbook.com/book/mmstick/rust-programming-phoronix-read
> > > er-how-to/details
> > >
> > > So maybe there is some way for Rust to go on the bindings front. I
> > > didn't
> > > look too much at other differences.
> > >
> > > Can you elaborate on your experiences with Rust and Vala that makes
> > > you
> > > recommend Rust?
> > >
> > >
> > > Personally, I find it encouraging the Marcin Lewandowski and
> > > RadioKit are
> > > looking to employ a Vala programmer. Marcin has filed a number of
> > > useful
> > > bug reports after I think investing some considerable time in using
> > > Vala. I
> > > hope the Vala community continues to grow and address some of those
> > > issues.
> > >
> > >
> > > Al
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