Yes you can trigger a resend back to original deck and maintain the recycle illusion when the draw deck becomes empty
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Neumann Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [vassalengine] How to make discards go to the bottom of the deck If you want to do this, you can reverse the deck order when the draw stack is empty. Then, either start discarding into the original draw deck, or move the entire deck to the draw deck and keep pulling. The order should be preserved by doing this. I believe you can have triggers set up to do this automatically when the draw deck is empty, so the illusion of the draw deck not shrinking remains. Tim can probably verify if the automation part is possible. Dave ________________________________ From: vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Russ Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:40 PM To: vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [vassalengine] How to make discards go to the bottom of the deck On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:31 PM, David Neumann wrote: > OK... > > You have 2 face-down stacks > > AZ > BY > CX > > Compare this to > > A > B > C > X > Y > Z > > Drawing from the bottom of this stack gives you > > Z > Y > X > > same as the discard stack in the 2 face-down stack example. Ah ha. So I see that this works for drawing from the bottom of the discard stack. But if the intent is to be able to draw from the top of the normal stack, and then have it continue in order through the discarded cards, you would then have to draw from the bottom of the discard stack rather than from the top. I may be mistaken, but I thought the original idea was to have a "recycling" stack of cards, that keep getting replenished from the bottom, retaining the order of the discards. > > ________________________________ > > From: vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Thomas Russ > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:55 PM > To: vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [vassalengine] How to make discards go to the bottom > of the > deck > > > > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:40 AM, David Neumann wrote: > >> Yes, the top card of the discard pile is the 'bottom' card of the >> full >> deck. >> >> Does that make sense? >> >> It does work -- when you place a card face down on the top of the >> discard pile, the cards in the discard pile are in the same order >> as if >> you'd placed them under the deck. > > Are you sure? I must be missing something. > > Let's have the following deck structure: > > A > B > C > > and then discard the cards X, Y and Z in that order. In an ideal > world, we would then end up with a deck structured like: > > A > B > C > X > Y > Z > > but if you use a separate discard pile and put them in on top, you > instead get: > > A Z > B Y > C X > > and card Z, the last one discarded, is on top of the discard pile > instead of card X. > > Or does this somehow rely on face-up or face down? > >> >> I actually use this mechanic for my Arkham module and it works good. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> ] >> On Behalf Of Thomas Russ >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:38 PM >> To: vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [vassalengine] How to make discards go to the bottom >> of the >> deck >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 16, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Tim McCaron wrote: >> >>> Just add a discard pile for each deck. It will act as the "bottom" >>> of the >>> deck. >>> >>> Give it a command to return to draw deck when the draw deck is >>> empty. >> >> But does this give the proper behavior? >> >> It sounds like the OP wanted to have the cards in order at the >> bottom. So you would have exactly the same issue with making cards >> go to the bottom of the discard pile. Wouldn't adding cards to the >> discard pile make them go on top of the discard pile? >> >>> _____ >>> >>> From: vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> >> <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> >>> [mailto:vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> >> <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> ] On >>> Behalf Of zefquaavius >>> >>> >>> I'm creating a module (woohoo!), and I need discards, by default >>> to go >>> to the bottom of their respective decks. >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! 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