I use Webmin my self.  Very useful.  However, how would you put, for 
example, users and their passwords from inside a large "shadow-file-type" 
file into a domain handled by vpopmail+mysql?  Vconvert would not only 
assimilate the users and encrypted passwords, but would also make their 
individual directories and Maildir for the domain of your choice.
There is also a need to, vice-versa, backup this information from MySQL 
database tables into some sort of "shadow-file-type" file for recovery 
purposes, if needed.
(BTW, I searched for "RTFM" at mysql.com.  Didn't find anything on it.)

Faruque

At 01:26 PM 6/29/01 -0400, KEnet Webmaster wrote:
>Theres two things I could reccommend for using mysql
>
>The first (and simplistic) is PHPmyAdmin  which is a php based MySQL
>administration tool.
>
>The second is WebMin.  I like webmin personally.  It gives you total
>protected access to all your system stuff  (system, crons, servers, etc)
>including mysql, and in the mysql section you canpoint and click your way to
>a back up.
>
>But theres always the better way of RTFM at mysql.com and learn how to do
>it.
>
>Kil
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Syed Faruque Ahmed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:21 PM
>Subject: Re: vconvert
>
>
>I have been mulling over this for sometime.  I still don't feel comfortable
>putting the development versions into production; too many frequent changes
>that might be necessary.  So I am still with the stable version of vpopmail
>with a working vconvert.
>However, there is an interesting script in the source under "contrib"
>directory called addusers.pl, that manually adds a list of users, one by
>one, to a domain you specify.  The catch is that it requires cleartext
>passwords.  Can "vadduser" work with encrypted passwords?
>Another problem is how to backup a list of users with their passwords from
>the MySQL db?  I plan to use vconvert to create vpasswd files on a regular
>basis, but how can one do that with the development vpopmail?  Does anybody
>have a (perl?) script that can read the db table and write out a neat
>little vpasswd file?  I think that it is do-able, but am too pressed with
>other stuff.
>
>Faruque
>
>At 09:56 AM 6/29/01 -0700, chris wrote:
> >With the current version of vconvert "disabled," does anyone have a
> >suggestion on how to import my current domains into mysql?  I'm not
> >currently using the replication feature which is -as I understand it- the
> >reason vconvert is disabled right now.  It doesn't currently support the
> >replication freature that the rest of vpopmail does.  I tried using an
>older
> >version of vconvert, I believe it was 4.10.18.  It loaded the domain info,
> >but it seemed that the path to the domains dir was not imported correctly.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Chris Bunnell
>

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