you think Velocity's output is hard-to-use? try reading the output of commons-digester at debug level. ;-)
anyway, i've been fiddling with logging extensively in 1.5-dev, lowering levels, improving the API, etc. so i would really love more specific feedback if you've got any! On 3/7/06, Max Rydahl Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:48:54 +0100, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > You could auto-init Velocity but log a message stating that you are doing > > that... > > > ...now I understand how velocity's log output has grown to such a huge > amount > of hard-to-use lines. ;) > > > /max > > > > > > > On 3/6/06, Max Rydahl Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:39:15 +0100, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Sure, why not? > >> > >> because then users who like to know if a subsystem is configured > >> before using it will not get a warning/exception. > >> > >> I would rather say that all the static singleton functionallity > >> should be ripped out of velocity since it is a Bad Thing. > >> > >> /max > >> > >> > > >> > On 3/6/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> hey guys, > >> >> > >> >> here's another idea i've only half-thought through... :) > >> >> > >> >> why do we require users to manually init() Velocity? are our default > >> >> settings that useless? > >> >> > >> >> i know most users will still want and need to do init(props), so it > >> >> ultimately isn't a big deal either way. but i think it could be a > >> >> nice convenience to automatically call init() when someone tries to > >> >> use Velocity, especially for those using Velocity.evaluate(). as it > >> >> is, we (sometimes) throw IllegalStateExceptions if someone is trying > >> >> to use Velocity and RuntimeInstance.isInitialized() returns false. > >> >> why not just call init() instead of barking at the user? > >> >> > >> >> feedback appreciated. :) > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > _______________________________________ > >> > Forio Business Simulations > >> > > >> > Will Glass-Husain > >> > phone (415) 440-7500 x89 > >> > mobile (415) 235-4293 > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > www.forio.com > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- > >> Max Rydahl Andersen > >> callto://max.rydahl.andersen > >> > >> Hibernate > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://hibernate.org > >> > >> JBoss Inc > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________ > > Forio Business Simulations > > > > Will Glass-Husain > > phone (415) 440-7500 x89 > > mobile (415) 235-4293 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.forio.com > > > > -- > -- > Max Rydahl Andersen > callto://max.rydahl.andersen > > Hibernate > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hibernate.org > > JBoss Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
