Or Hibernate. I haven't checked lately, but I seem to remember hundreds if not thousands of DEBUG lines at startup. Not a big deal. If we move more of Velocity log messages to DEBUG, this seems similarly inconsequential.
cheers, WILL On 3/7/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you think Velocity's output is hard-to-use? try reading the output of > commons-digester at debug level. ;-) > > anyway, i've been fiddling with logging extensively in 1.5-dev, > lowering levels, improving the API, etc. so i would really love more > specific feedback if you've got any! > > On 3/7/06, Max Rydahl Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:48:54 +0100, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > You could auto-init Velocity but log a message stating that you are > doing > > > that... > > > > > > ...now I understand how velocity's log output has grown to such a huge > > amount > > of hard-to-use lines. ;) > > > > > > /max > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/6/06, Max Rydahl Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:39:15 +0100, Will Glass-Husain < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Sure, why not? > > >> > > >> because then users who like to know if a subsystem is configured > > >> before using it will not get a warning/exception. > > >> > > >> I would rather say that all the static singleton functionallity > > >> should be ripped out of velocity since it is a Bad Thing. > > >> > > >> /max > > >> > > >> > > > >> > On 3/6/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> hey guys, > > >> >> > > >> >> here's another idea i've only half-thought through... :) > > >> >> > > >> >> why do we require users to manually init() Velocity? are our > default > > >> >> settings that useless? > > >> >> > > >> >> i know most users will still want and need to do init(props), so > it > > >> >> ultimately isn't a big deal either way. but i think it could be a > > >> >> nice convenience to automatically call init() when someone tries > to > > >> >> use Velocity, especially for those using Velocity.evaluate(). as > it > > >> >> is, we (sometimes) throw IllegalStateExceptions if someone is > trying > > >> >> to use Velocity and RuntimeInstance.isInitialized() returns false. > > >> >> why not just call init() instead of barking at the user? > > >> >> > > >> >> feedback appreciated. :) > > >> >> > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > _______________________________________ > > >> > Forio Business Simulations > > >> > > > >> > Will Glass-Husain > > >> > phone (415) 440-7500 x89 > > >> > mobile (415) 235-4293 > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > www.forio.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> -- > > >> Max Rydahl Andersen > > >> callto://max.rydahl.andersen > > >> > > >> Hibernate > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> http://hibernate.org > > >> > > >> JBoss Inc > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________ > > > Forio Business Simulations > > > > > > Will Glass-Husain > > > phone (415) 440-7500 x89 > > > mobile (415) 235-4293 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > www.forio.com > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Max Rydahl Andersen > > callto://max.rydahl.andersen > > > > Hibernate > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://hibernate.org > > > > JBoss Inc > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- _______________________________________ Forio Business Simulations Will Glass-Husain phone (415) 440-7500 x89 mobile (415) 235-4293 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.forio.com
