Same here. I want to tell the Versions support team that without their
terrific app, my team never would have adopted version control. Versions
allowed us to get the designers to adopt it without much fuss and after
we were saved from a few disasters there was no going back. Thank you.
On 1/10/13 3:51 PM, drukepple wrote:
Wow, I totally forgot about this thread. But thanks, because the
email notification reminded me that I should just unsubscribe myself.
Even if SVN were still a thing for me (why, hello, Git!), Versions
would be dead to me owing to the very topic of this thread. Best of
luck to you. Thanks for the year or two that Versions was grand, and
I hope your plan works out the way you expect. So long.
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:38:44 PM UTC-7, Daniel Dickison wrote:
Just another ping on svn 1.7 support — even a vague ballpark
statement would be nice. Is 1.7 support a priority? Perhaps
after Kaleidoscope 2 emerges from beta? I've switched to the
command line for now, and contemplating other apps.
On Sunday, May 27, 2012 8:20:01 AM UTC-4, dlpasco wrote:
We bought this software to continue updating it and make it
even greater than it already is.
Unfortunately, disclosing our product roadmap is not an
option. Jack is in the unenviable position of being the public
face for this product - please at least divert your
frustration to me personally, because he is just conveying the
message that our team members have all internally agreed to
stand by: we give a damn what people think, our product group
is very busy, and we can't talk about when we'll release
products or what will be in the those releases until they have
shipped.
If people are upset about that, it's understandable. All that
I can say is, we didn't acquire this product to kill it or sit
on it.
The gist of this is as follows:
* We can't miss a deadline we don't announce (on at least one
product, we would have missed our proposed deadline multiple
times if we'd kept telling people when we planned to ship.
Unfortunately, really producing a polished product takes a lot
of time, and we agreed internally that we'd rather take longer
to make something better than just push something out the door
that would make people upset).
* If we don't announce the features in our next planned
release, we can't get flamed for postponing support for that
feature in the release if it looks like it's not ready to make
it into the build yet).
* Our competitors (and there are many out there) - can't jump
the gun on us if we don't announce an upcoming feature before
it goes live.
All three of these factors are important, and the last one may
only be important to us, but it's a critical one: our product
team is young and totally buried working on applications - if
we lose market share simply because we announce something
before it's ready, and someone else is capable of responding
to the announcement before we ship, it's going to really hurt
our ability to even break even on what we're working on -
which means that it will become even harder for our team to
ship great updates to these apps.
My personal focus for almost the last year has been on putting
absolutely all of my energy into our product team. These apps
are large, complex, great things, and we're committed to doing
great work on everything we ship. Since our product team
currently consists of about five full time developers and four
full time designers, and we have taken on five different
applications. Moving forward with these apps *and* doing a
great job on them takes time.
Our company is investing heavily in the product group,
currently at a net loss. Hopefully, at some point in the
future we will at least break even on our work. At the
present, please try to take the following points to heart:
* We are crazily in love with our apps
* We are working our butts off
* We have already turned down offers to acquire our company,
as well as offers to acquire individual products, because we
want to see these apps *ship* and we want them to be amazing.
* We are absolutely not sitting on these apps and happily
collecting revenue from them - we're using the revenue to pay
for the work our product team is doing and our company is
sinking considerably more than those apps are making into the
product group in order to pay for the other people that the
direct revenue doesn't cover.
At this point, as I've told Jack (who has expressed support
for our stance of silence, but also really been uncomfortable
with the fact that it doesn't leave him in a very good
position on the support front), the only thing we can do is
shut up and ship something great. Which is what we're trying
to do.
If we lose customers in the interim, those are lumps we will
have to take. Hopefully as our apps do ship, they will be
compelling enough that people will be interested in trying
them out.
I wish we were big enough that I could just throw 30 people at
these projects and ship them on an expedited pace.
Unfortunately, this is why being indie is a double-edged
sword: we have complete creative control over our apps and can
take the time to make them the best they can be, instead of
being beholden to some investor that wants us to ship a shitty
product as quickly as possible to meet their bottom line, or
outright kill a product by selling it to someone that *would*
just sit on it to make a quick buck.
Really, the only sources of pressure we have to ship something
before it's ready are our own finance people, who would love
to see the revenue coming in so they could stop pouring money
into the product team and put some capital away for our own
security, and our existing users, who are understandably
frustrated and impatient with the realities of how long this
is taking.
Everyone else in our own group is beating themselves senseless
on our work and would prefer to keep it unreleased until it is
ready.
We've talked about writing a blog post about this, and we
probably should. I don't know if this will make a bit of
difference to anyone reading this, but we're working hard, and
we truly give a shit about our customers and what we're
working on.
In any case, as I said, if people are upset about it, feel
free to reach out to me directly. I'm the CEO and I'm the
responsible party for these decisions, not Jack.
-Daniel Pasco, CEO
Black Pixel
On May 27, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Christian Pleul
<chri...@googlemail.com> wrote:
That support really sucks! Why did you guys ever bought this
software...
Christian
Sent from my iPad
On 25.05.2012, at 23:26, "Jack (Black Pixel)"
<ja...@blackpixel.com> wrote:
Hi - sorry for the delay in responding.
Unfortunately, I don't have any information to share
regarding 1.7 support.
Jack
the Versions team
versionsapp.com <http://versionsapp.com/>
@versionsapp
On Friday, May 18, 2012 10:19:24 AM UTC-7, William Chu wrote:
When is Subversion 1.7 support coming to Versions? It's
become a real
hindrance and I've found myself gradually using Versions
less and less
given this limitation.
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