Yes it is an LOL
I keep teasing Dave about it, have been for years. Sorry if it came through any
other way. It was meant as a joke.
Dave is a good friend to all of us.
Tony
--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:23 AM
Tony,
Is that an 'LOL'?
If that is so, is it a 'conflict of
interest' to be hawking/selling it as a stockholder?
How does it work? If I bought stock in
Whiting, Flex-O, Mc Flyfoam, etc., can I still hawk their
products?
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From:
Anthony
Spezio
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:54
AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments,
DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Don,
I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a
couple of sample bottles from him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma
last May. I have been told he will be at the Sowbug in
March.
Tony
--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
From:
Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re:
[VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
To:
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43
AM
Joyce, that info helps out a
lot.
1. I saw the
photos of what he was doing and you seem right on.
Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies
applied.
Once anyone gets the rope dub down
pat, the furling is another open door to some cool applications, not
just another tail on the fly. I wish I could tell you all of the
applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2.
;o)
What I can say is that anything that will
rope-dub will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core,
mono core, wire core, or bite tippet core. Also, all of
your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc.,
become materials for furls.
One hint (which I've attached photos on)-
chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope
and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars,
as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you
want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can
shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on the hook itself,
and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and still
dense and 'fleshy'.
2. Looks like
DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough
space/time to do patterns and recipes.
I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that
were in much longer format that the one I did. I'm checking into
it to make sure the quality is the same.
Do you guys think a 2,
3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can
be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the techhniques and
show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly
bodies. Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for
one guy at the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the
fly to a slick hook (shiny plated saltwater hooks are very
slick). Which brings up item #3:
3. Dave Whitlock
has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me
one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with
the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially
designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm
thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards
on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the
old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish.
4. I've used
Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they
seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal
all the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more
durable and seals in the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no
detectable smell after two weeks.
My lure-fishing experience tell me to
give them a shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human
scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas). It
works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout
through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate the
water- so fish are used to smelling them. Problem is, some fly
materials react to the oil, and then degrade. Don't know which
ones they are until it's too late. Add that to materials
reacting to the sun and salt, and many materials just don't hold up
in
the real world- especially holographic streamer fibers.
DonO
-----
Original Message -----
From:
Joyce
Westphal
To:
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent:
Monday, January 18, 2010 4:25 AM
Subject:
Re: [VFB] book
I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would
not buy it again. You can get the same information on the internet
free of charge. Of course, he only talks about furled flies and
after you learn the technique, all the flies look the same, just
different colors of furled thread tails. Don't know if this helps.
Joyce
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths
<aflyt...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge of a
Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies?
Gary
S.
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