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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Colyn
Sent: January 26, 2010 1:00 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Then & Now -Suggestion
Neville
I hear you, however. (oops)
Does one (collective) need the introduction of new ideas (blood) to maintain
the health of the genepool? Yes, I believe we need both new ideas, topics
ect. and new members - not at the expense of the experienced members but in
addition to.
Genetics 101. Duh, yes, from a stagnation point of view, however (oops
again) the ability to think out of the box, or burn the bloody thing, as the
likes of Don, Jimmy or Tony do every now and then, seems to indicate that
the ability to regenerate internally, is a malaligned ability. And here we
face the reality of conservatisim vs liberalism, can this be done
internally, as shown by our mentors, or do we toss out the baby with the
bathwater????? What are you actually trying to say here?
I have watched the world of fashion and glamour photography develop over a
number of years, (dont try, I aint gonna tell you how many), and what
astounds me, is the reinvention of the same ideas/themes over a approx 30 -
40 yr cycle (ya, argue me for a decade or so) look at what Annie Liebowitz
did with the 'Stones, think you can find me a parrallel today...............
Flies are reinvented all the time with minute variations. I'm not sure what
point you are trying to make.
It's all been done before, you just gotta find a new way of packaging it for
today. Clark & Goddard...................... just look at what is popping up
on Hans Weilenmans' site currently. I visit Hans site from time to time as
I feel it is makes for great reference material. I have just gone back to
have a look and what I see are new people and their flies being featured,
but that is something that has been going on ever since Hans started the
site. Yes it has been done before (the flies that is) but Han's site is a
very effective medium for display.
I'm NOT argueing against the reinventors, we all have to be. But the old
soaks, knew a thing or two before they couldnt wade the streams any more.
I'm not denying that they don't know a thing or two however, as we age we
tend to get somewhat stuck in our ways. Change is stressful and is generally
resisted, but change is constant whether we like it or not. This is very
evident in my fly fishing club which is almost 43 years old.
Welcome the new, but PLEASE, not at the expence of the more experienced.
That is not my intention or suggestion at all. I am merely suggesting
TRYING a change in format from e-mail list to a forum. The experienced
members can still access and comment on a forum.
Your mileage may vary Mr. Gosling, but hear a man with some miles on the
clock. Call me Nev not Mr. Gosling
With respect Nev, please, no offence intended, even if you imagine it so
That's better. No offence taken or implied.
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada
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David
2010/1/26 Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>
David:
This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my fellow
club members
"I returned from the United Kingdom just three days ago after my longest
ever stay in the UK since coming to Canada in 1972. Every time that I go
back, I find things just that little bit different. It is no longer the
same country that I left all those years ago, but then again, neither is the
Canada that I returned to the same as the one I came to in 1972. Canada has
become more urbanized over the years. While in the UK, I read a book by
W.D. Wetherell entitled "North of Now" that discusses country life in New
Hampshire and Vermont, and the fact that country life is changing and in
many cases disappearing. The quotation "Change is inevitable. Change is
Constant" is attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and is so true. I believe that
in order to continue as a strong and respected club, the Totem Flyfishers
must also change, but change is stressful and tends to invoke resistance.
Traditions are important and comfortable, so how does one balance retaining
important traditions with change? Another quote, this time by Niccolo
Machiavelli states; "Whosoever desires constant success must change his
conduct with the times." I believe that we must adapt with the times in
order to attract new and younger members. In my opinion, the present
average age of members is too great and we must bring in new and if possible
younger persons in order to have a group of younger like-minded members to
pass the club on to. I am pleased to say that I believe that we are just
beginning to make a little progress in this area and I ask each of you to
diligently look out for potential new members as we go forward into 2010. "
So, in answer to your question, I think that the VFB must change in order to
attract more members. Although I prefer the e-mail list, I suggest that we
TRY the forum approach. Just take a look at this
http://speypages.com/speyclave/ and look at the number of posts and threads.
http://www.flybc.ca <http://www.flybc.ca/> is similar.
That's my 2 cents worth.
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada
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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Colyn
Sent: January 26, 2010 12:04 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Then & Now
Well said Nev.
Have any solution to the well defined problem??
I sure dont.............
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