They still make tons of thread but not all  for tying. My contact there said 
they did not have enough sales for Fly Tying thread is why they dropped the Pro 
staff and got out of tying materials . Tying thread is waxed, sewing thread is 
not waxed. They also make a load of  medical materials. Making thread for tyers 
was not economical. Money is the big thing. I have been told they are making 
tying thread for Orvis under contract.
The reason you can use 14/0 over 10/0 is the 14/0 is a heavier thread. You 
can't go by the number.
Tony

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Chuck Alexander <chuckalexan...@hughes.net> wrote:

From: Chuck Alexander <chuckalexan...@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:29 PM



 
 

I wish thread companies would all go to the denier 
system. You're right. I can't hardly tie using Guderbrod 10/0, cause it's soo 
tiny, but I have no problems with the Griffin's 14/0. Something else that's 
weird (to me anyway) about Guderbrod. They STILL make TONS of thread 
(unless they JUST stopped)  My wife worked at the sewing factory near here 
and they use Guderbrod thread to make ALL the high dollar Jos A Bank  men's 
dress suits.
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:41 
PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread 
  compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
  

  
    
    
      Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, 
        the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian 
        thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it 
        was the best thread I have tied with.
Tony

--- On Mon, 
        3/1/10, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> 
        wrote:

        
From: 
          Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: 
          Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 
          6/0 or 3/0?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, March 1, 
          2010, 8:33 AM


          > A quick question.  Thanks.
> 
          
> How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The 
          link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. 
          Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in 
          diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread?

The word "fine" is what 
          throws you off.  It's "Fine" for rod building thread.  But 
          it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread.

Put in simple 
          terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread.   Well, 
          maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying 
          deer hair.

I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual 
          measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters.  
          When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still 
          working in confusion like we were back in the days of  "HGH" 
          designations for fly lines.

a.
-- Allan Fish
Greenwood, 
          IN
afi...@sbcglobal.net

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