They still make tons of thread but not all for tying. My contact there said they did not have enough sales for Fly Tying thread is why they dropped the Pro staff and got out of tying materials . Tying thread is waxed, sewing thread is not waxed. They also make a load of medical materials. Making thread for tyers was not economical. Money is the big thing. I have been told they are making tying thread for Orvis under contract. The reason you can use 14/0 over 10/0 is the 14/0 is a heavier thread. You can't go by the number. Tony
--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Chuck Alexander <chuckalexan...@hughes.net> wrote: From: Chuck Alexander <chuckalexan...@hughes.net> Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:29 PM I wish thread companies would all go to the denier system. You're right. I can't hardly tie using Guderbrod 10/0, cause it's soo tiny, but I have no problems with the Griffin's 14/0. Something else that's weird (to me anyway) about Guderbrod. They STILL make TONS of thread (unless they JUST stopped) My wife worked at the sewing factory near here and they use Guderbrod thread to make ALL the high dollar Jos A Bank men's dress suits. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:33 AM > A quick question. Thanks. > > How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2717 - Release Date: 03/01/10 13:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com