If anybody decides to meister an NZ/Aussie possum swap, let me know please. Or
if you wanted to get some possum and chinchilla both, because I have tried a
tiny patch of the chinchilla (I think I got it from Don O in fact), and it made
great dubbing..I just don't seem to be a good meister on something like this as
I'd be too worried that I wouldn't give each person the same amount, but would
love to be in a co-op if anybody decides to start one. Thanks, Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Ordes
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps- How it would/could work...
I think you guys might be missing the point.
This swap is for those who:
a.. Need more of a specific animal for dubbing and want an amount at a
better price
b.. Can't find a specific animal at on-line sources or local fly-shops
c.. Want to try out a new critter for dubbing, such as a chinchilla or New
Zealand Possum.
d.. Want to try out rope-dubbing with raw durs on the hide, unblended, to
get 'guard hairs as hackle' effects. (I can demo how to do this)
e.. Want to share the cost with other VFBers so they don't have to buy a
whole pelt to try something out.
f.. Need fur strips to make zonker-style flies or sculpin-type tails and
want to cut-your-own for shape and length.
g.. Want to use natural colors or can dye their own by buying a white hide
if available
h.. Want to design new flies for specific fish and applications, using a
new material.
i.. Want to share the cost of something else on the site, like 'porkypine'
quills or peccary or whatever else os on site- doesn't have to be a fur or
dubbing even.
j.. (Heck, it doesn't even have to be at Mocsow, like the Whiting hackle
co-op swaps. It's the idea of co-op bulk buying to lessen and share the
expense of something you don't want to spring for the whole $ amount for.)
k.. Bulk from the mfg. is a good way to cut out the middle-man expenses-
just like the hook-swap.
This swap is not for:
a.. People who don't fit in any of the above descriptions.
Denny Conrad loved the chinchilla I was using and ordered his own pelt from
Moscow and is now roping new and old go-to patterns with chinchilla, like the
'Usual' that I posted. He then ordered the whole pelt because he loved the
tiny sample I sent him and knew what it was like.
So with this swap, if tyers just want to try out a chinchilla sample, 20 (or
whatever) of them could divide up a Chinchilla pelt of any quality ranging from
$10 to $50 http://www.hideandfur.com/inventory/6300.html and get a patch to
try out for dying, drys, wets, blending, zonker strips, etc. A 1" x 2" strip
could tie quite a few fishing flies, as chinchilla is incredibly dense.
Australian/NZ possum is another fur-on-the-hide to try out. It is soft and
dense, ropes very well with great guard hairs for self-hackling ropes.
So:
a.. a meister that wants to try a certain dubbing could find the pelt they
want at the site above,
b.. determine what part and how much they want and announce a swap.
c.. Swappers could enter for a price/amount (proportion) of the hide they
want to try and enter.
d.. When the meister has enough swappers to buy the pelt proportion they
don't want to buy, he closes the swap.
e.. So if they want 1/3 of the pelt, they close at 2/3 purchased by
swappers.
f.. So a swapper could sign up for just a square inch of a pelt at a couple
of dollars, just to try out an exotic dubbing not found in stores or on-line.
g.. If you aren't interested, don't reply
What motivates meistering a swap? A tier wants to try a dubbing critter and
wants to share the expense for the hide. They can meister themselves or request
another interested VFBer as a meister with a swap offer on list.
What motivates joining a swap? Getting a new dubbing sample to try out for a
couple of dollars or a larger supply if you find from a previous sample that
you really like a dubbing and want more, based on the effectiveness of the
flies they design. Post your fly designs to get swappers interested.
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: haerb...@comcast.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps
My wife is trying to get me to sell some mine off!
BobH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan Fish" <afi...@sbcglobal.net>
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:16:31 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps
>I've got enough dubbing to last me until I die so this is one swap
>I'd not be interested in. Thanks. Joyce
And I've got enough to last several of us, so I'm in agreement with Joyce.
A.
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