Tom: here's a photo of that vise. I think I paid $39.95 for it. Don't waste 
your money. It IS a rotary, but VERY cheaply machined. It  rusted from just the 
humidity in the house, and also the "pad" as you can see, that goes on the 
adjustment screw to make it not bore into the table came off the first few 
days. I'd rather have a $20 Thompson any day,rotary or not. HTH, Chuck

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Swahn Jr 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:12 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: HUGE Rattler


  Real quick question for Chuck....what was that vice you bought on EBay a bit 
ago??  ALL my projects are done after close to two years and i'm anxious to get 
tying again....Hope all on the list are doing well..missed you guys!!!


  Tom in VT  

  On Thursday, August 9, 2012 11:57:29 PM UTC-4, chuckles wrote:
    Folks: It's the dog days of Summer, and that means (at least around here) 
that the snakes are crawling, and are meaner than ever. Yesterday, my son and 
grand daughter were walking to the edge of of or property to check on getting a 
part off an old Ford we have parked there when they saw a huge rattler gliding 
across the yard. They ran up and got me, and wouldn't ya know it but the firing 
pin on my shotgun is broken, so I get my 22 magnum pistol and go out there. I 
spot him, and you know how ppl are about telling you the size of snakes. It's 
like telling you the size of the "fish that got away". But this was one of the 
Eastern Diamondbacks you see on the TV shows, as in over 5ft long, and bigger 
than my forearm. But the weird thing is, even after I shot (and missed 3 out of 
5 times, cause it's hard to hit a snake with an old revolver at 15 yards, cause 
that was as close as I was getting LOL). Anyway, through all that, he NEVER 
ratted a single time. I shot and missed. I shot again and hit him. He stopped 
dead in his tracks and I thought I had heart shot him, cause I knew it was a 
"body shot". I shot again, and hit him again. (reason I know is cause after he 
had gone, I saw the blood stains on the ground) He still didn't move. His tail 
was straight up, and he had 7 or 8 rattles, each at least 3/4" across, but like 
I said, they NEVER once rattled. I missed him three more times, and had one 
round mis fire before he FINALLY  started crawling off VERY SLOWLY. My son in 
law had heard the shots and came down with his shotgun, and we went out into 
the woods and hunted the snake for 30 minutes or so, but never saw him again. 
Man, that really scared me knowing how close he was to my son and grand 
daughter. He was a BEAUTIFUL snake as he had JUST shed his skin and his colors 
and markings were really bright. But he'll be "dead and beautiful" if I see him 
again and hopefully get more shots at him LOL. Anyway, if you live anywhere 
that is snake country, this is a bad time of the year, so be on the lookout at 
all times.  Chuck


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