DonO, I discovered the same with my SLF. I was able to rope it, but if I tried to make the fibers linear it was easier. I used the following procedure: Take a smal lump of dubbing and pull at both ends like making a noodle. Than fold it in the middle and repeat the pull. Repeating this several times sorts the fibers in a parallel manner. Dubbing prepared in this way roped eaier - at least for me. I guess you can describe this better and have - for sure - the better procedure.
Roping in Germany Rene -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: Samstag, 29. Dezember 2001 21:24 Betreff: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques >Bob, >If you want to drive people insane, give them this stuff to rope! The key >is getting the fibers linear and overlapping. Once you do that, you can >rope the fly hairy, fuzzy, or clean. I'll send some photos. >DonO > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bob Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:12 PM >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > >> So DonO you going to tell me how to do it? I did warn you that it was >some >> nasty stuff! >> >> Bob H >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques >> >> >> > I've been able to rope everything so far, even that God-awful stuff Bob >> sent >> > me. >> > Learning the fundamentals is easy with those you mentioned, then >graduate >> to >> > naturals and tuff stuffs. >> > DonO >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Bud Cragar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:48 AM >> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques >> > >> > >> > > Don, >> > > >> > > I've been rope dubbing with ice dub. What are the requirements for a >dub >> > > that will work with your method? >> > > >> > > I assume that the dubbing materials must have long fibers. I see that >> you >> > > use squirrel brite and SLF. Any others? I've never used either of >these. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > Bud >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:46 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques >> > > >> > > >> > > > Rene, >> > > > >> > > > If you usually rib counter to the body wrap, you were probably >looking >> > for >> > > > durability in that the rib was stronger then the body material and >> kept >> > > the >> > > > cut material ends from unwrapping. When rope-dubbing, especially on >a >> > > wire >> > > > core, this is not a great threat. >> > > > So if you want to gold rib a Gold-ribbed Hare's Ear, then just rib >> with >> > > the >> > > > direction of the segments, and between the segments. If ribbing >with >> > > > tinsel, the segments will help protect the ribbing from being cut by >a >> > > > tooth. Just tie your ribbing on when you tie your dubbing tip to the >> > hook. >> > > > The end result is still true to pattern, and tough. >> > > > >> > > > Ribbing with wire ( or clear mono) can also give you a few >variations >> if >> > > you >> > > > tie in other materials at the bend. If you tie on a shell-back, you >> can >> > > > pull it forwards over the tail and rib over it for a shiny ribbed >> > stonefly >> > > > look theat still sports the fuzzy belly. Or tie a piece of white >> floss >> > on >> > > > and make a white central line up the fly tail, and ribbing it in >> place. >> > > > >> > > > Try roping both a black and an orange rope tied in at the back. Do >a >> > > > cross-weave with the black on back. You'll get a fuzzy segmented >> > > > over-'n-under stonefly body like a bitch creek. Many possibilities >> here >> > > > too. >> > > > >> > > > Just a few ideas humbly submitted for your approval. >> > > > >> > > > DonO >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:38 AM >> > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Don, dd and others, >> > > > > this discussion was very informative for me. Thanks again. >> > > > > I rope-dubbed some flies with it and came to one issue. If I rope >> the >> > > dub >> > > > > very tight I run in problems with the ribbing material. I usually >> rib >> > > > > counterclockwise (opposite to the tying direction). As the rib >> cannot >> > go >> > > > > into the dub it slips. Recommendations? Or simply: No rope-dub if >> > > > ribbing.. >> > > > > Regards >> > > > > Rene/Germany >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >
