It comes in bags and 12 compartment dispensers. Lots of colors, too. DonO
----- Original Message ----- From: denis goulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques Don, Silly question but where can i get hold of some ice dubbing as i live in Ireland and have never seen the stuff before,any of u uk guy's know of a source.. Thanks again.. Regards, Denis. >From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques >Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 20:01:50 -0700 > >Rene, >You've hit the right technique for very clean, well defined segments. That >"dubbing from hell" that Bob sent had to be done that way, plus done so >that >then ends overlapped. The more linear the material, the cleaner the >segments will be- the more random the fibers, the bushier or fuzzier it can >be. >DonO > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:42 PM >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > >DonO, >I discovered the same with my SLF. I was able to rope it, but if I tried to >make the fibers linear it was easier. I used the following procedure: Take >a >smal lump of dubbing and pull at both ends like making a noodle. Than fold >it in the middle and repeat the pull. Repeating this several times sorts >the >fibers in a parallel manner. >Dubbing prepared in this way roped eaier - at least for me. >I guess you can describe this better and have - for sure - the better >procedure. > >Roping in Germany > >Rene > >-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Datum: Samstag, 29. Dezember 2001 21:24 >Betreff: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > >Bob, > >If you want to drive people insane, give them this stuff to rope! The >key > >is getting the fibers linear and overlapping. Once you do that, you can > >rope the fly hairy, fuzzy, or clean. I'll send some photos. > >DonO > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bob Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:12 PM > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > >> So DonO you going to tell me how to do it? I did warn you that it was > >some > >> nasty stuff! > >> > >> Bob H > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:48 PM > >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > >> > >> > >> > I've been able to rope everything so far, even that God-awful stuff >Bob > >> sent > >> > me. > >> > Learning the fundamentals is easy with those you mentioned, then > >graduate > >> to > >> > naturals and tuff stuffs. > >> > DonO > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: Bud Cragar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:48 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > >> > > >> > > >> > > Don, > >> > > > >> > > I've been rope dubbing with ice dub. What are the requirements for >a > >dub > >> > > that will work with your method? > >> > > > >> > > I assume that the dubbing materials must have long fibers. I see >that > >> you > >> > > use squirrel brite and SLF. Any others? I've never used either of > >these. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > > >> > > Bud > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:46 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Rene, > >> > > > > >> > > > If you usually rib counter to the body wrap, you were probably > >looking > >> > for > >> > > > durability in that the rib was stronger then the body material >and > >> kept > >> > > the > >> > > > cut material ends from unwrapping. When rope-dubbing, especially >on > >a > >> > > wire > >> > > > core, this is not a great threat. > >> > > > So if you want to gold rib a Gold-ribbed Hare's Ear, then just >rib > >> with > >> > > the > >> > > > direction of the segments, and between the segments. If ribbing > >with > >> > > > tinsel, the segments will help protect the ribbing from being cut >by > >a > >> > > > tooth. Just tie your ribbing on when you tie your dubbing tip to >the > >> > hook. > >> > > > The end result is still true to pattern, and tough. > >> > > > > >> > > > Ribbing with wire ( or clear mono) can also give you a few > >variations > >> if > >> > > you > >> > > > tie in other materials at the bend. If you tie on a shell-back, >you > >> can > >> > > > pull it forwards over the tail and rib over it for a shiny ribbed > >> > stonefly > >> > > > look theat still sports the fuzzy belly. Or tie a piece of white > >> floss > >> > on > >> > > > and make a white central line up the fly tail, and ribbing it in > >> place. > >> > > > > >> > > > Try roping both a black and an orange rope tied in at the back. >Do > >a > >> > > > cross-weave with the black on back. You'll get a fuzzy segmented > >> > > > over-'n-under stonefly body like a bitch creek. Many >possibilities > >> here > >> > > > too. > >> > > > > >> > > > Just a few ideas humbly submitted for your approval. > >> > > > > >> > > > DonO > >> > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:38 AM > >> > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Don, dd and others, > >> > > > > this discussion was very informative for me. Thanks again. > >> > > > > I rope-dubbed some flies with it and came to one issue. If I >rope > >> the > >> > > dub > >> > > > > very tight I run in problems with the ribbing material. I >usually > >> rib > >> > > > > counterclockwise (opposite to the tying direction). As the rib > >> cannot > >> > go > >> > > > > into the dub it slips. Recommendations? Or simply: No rope-dub >if > >> > > > ribbing.. > >> > > > > Regards > >> > > > > Rene/Germany > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
