On 4/2/15 23:08, Mo Zanaty (mzanaty) wrote:
It's unclear if "evaluation criteria" in the first deliverable matches the
first or last milestone.

I was reading it as being part of the first deliverable (as the deliverables and milestones for the charter otherwise match each other in order, number, and content). I propose clarifying by changing the first milestone to be "Requirements and evaluation criteria to IESG..."

That said, I wouldn't get too hung up on the "Milestones" section. We can change that pretty easily after the group is chartered, if we discover reason to do so; and, in most cases, they aim to brief rather than self-explanatory (leaving completeness to the body of the charter). When looking at what the working group is allowed/expected to work on, it's really the "Deliverables" section that you should focus on.

My interpretation of the final milestone is testing the completed codec to
verify the goals were met, since it comes last. I'm not sure how useful or
necessary this is. It likely came from the opus/codec wg charter, which is
also revisiting the need for this (still outstanding) milestone. I suggest
to remove it until its purpose and need is clear.


The actual deliverable is described thus: "A collection of test results, either from tests conducted by the working group or made publicly available elsewhere, characterizing the performance of the codec. This document shall be informational."

In that context, do you still believe that this document should not be part of what the WG intends to work on? My personal, non-chair position is that a characterization document would be useful and relevant to the WG's goals (which include demonstrating that the codec is "competitive"); and I believe that we have people willing to work on it. Since it's the last thing slated to be delivered, it doesn't hold up other work, and those parties who don't care about its contents don't need to wait for its publication.

/a

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