My interest would be, if viable, to test out applications like FFMPEG
(transcoding) running on the server.  Loading applications would not
be available on a managed server and would cost more for a dedicated
server only for myself.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ah, clint
> 
> quite obviously there is a third option: people who want it free, but 
> without the trade off of poor availability/performance/etc
> 
> the reason why this is needed so much is not necessarily because people 
> are cheap, but because they want to see it work reliably the first time 
> when they are starting out (for one thing)
> 
> i think that this is really important for vlogging to take off: 
> reliable, free access for beginners.
> 
> plus i'm sure there are plenty of folks who can't or don't want to 
> afford yet *another* $120 (kids come to mind for one)
> 
> another point: the paid options often come with a fair amount of admin 
> hassles for some people.  they are not all turnkey and certainly not
all 
> equal or easy to use for the average person.
> 
> finally, it's not always the case that a paid service performs better 
> than a free one (especially when the paid one gets popular).
> 
> every hosting provider I ever had was great until they weren't ;)
> 
> maybe it's just a question of *who* is paying for the service (i.e.,
not 
> users)
> 
> how do we increase archive reliability and performance?
> 
> is it just a money issue?
> 
> how do we make Bush pay for it?  :p
> 
> 
> 
> Clint Sharp wrote:
> 
> > I'd be happy to dance.  There are currently thousands of hosting 
> > options from thousands of providers who make it their business to 
> > maximize the amount of people you can fit onto one server.  Those 
> > people are not the people on this list.  I suggest you check them out.
> >
> > Vlog hosting needs two things, servers and bandwidth.  A "collective" 
> > or a shared hosting resource of vloggers is never going to be able to 
> > compete with people who's business it is to make a profit doing
this.  
> > You are not going to be able to rent a server from anyone, delve
it up 
> > between a bunch of high-bandwidth users and make it economically 
> > feasible.  The best option is to be in the hosting business, in which 
> > you divide up hosting resources between high bandwidth users and 
> > low-bandwidth users.  Combining a group of unprofitable users is 
> > unprofitable, no matter how you do the math.  Much better to let the 
> > companies whose business it is combine users who, while they may be 
> > allocated hundreds of gigabytes a month of transfer, don't use it, 
> > with users who do.
> >
> > There are two options in the vlog hosting world, and I don't see a 
> > need for a third.  There are people who want to host their vlogs for 
> > free, and thus they make a tradeoff in terms of service, and there
are 
> > those who are willing to pay.  I'm all for free services, and I 
> > happily recommend them to people who don't really care whether their 
> > users can access their videos.  There are also paid options, which 
> > cost a mimimal amount a month (honestly, if you can't afford $120/yr, 
> > you can't afford the camera and the computer to vlog either, 
> > probably).  I recommend the paid options to most people.  Who
wants to 
> > invest the time and effort to create a middle option when the second 
> > option is already so cheap?
> >
> > Clint
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/18/06, *David Howell* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     First off...*I* never asked a question. Learn reading skills.
> >
> >     Second. My conversations take place in person where I can see a
> >     persons eyes. I trust about 1% of what I read online.
> >
> >     Last. I really dont care about being part of some vlog
collective. The
> >     original concept was for some people to group funds together for a
> >     server that would host videos.
> >
> >     Care to dance a little more?
> >
> >
> >     David
> >     http://www.taoofdavid.com
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> >
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