I wish to also add that this is very exciting news to me, learning
about Ogg Theora.  I'll definitely keep this in mind; but right now,
I'm interested in learning what everyone here feels is the current
overall best video format for videoblogging...

Sincerely,
Harold

On 4/4/06, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charles,
>
> This is the first I've heard of Ogg Theora, and I am *into* open
> source; that is, I run Linux on a PC and on an old Powerbook at home,
> though I can't say I use it every day (or even every week or month,
> for that matter).  I have my doubts that Ogg Theora will become the de
> facto standard; I mean, look at Ogg Vorbis.  How many of you (reading
> this) even know what Ogg Vorbis is?
>
> You're perhaps right, however, about one format or another becoming
> the de facto standard in the future.  Look at what happened with
> Flash; now you'll find it installed in nearly every browser out there.
>  And though I admire your idealism about Ogg and its future, which
> format do you think is the *current* de facto standard?
>
> Thanks for your feedback,
> Harold
>
> On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Hello,
> >
> > I think the only way to really make all (or most) browsers support one
> > standard video format is to force them.
> >
> > Basically, we do this by making a single video format the defacto standard.
> > In other words, all of us vloggers just start using one video format, and
> > eventually, the browser makers will feel compelled to support that format.
> >
> > Now, this doesn't mean that we don't support other formats.  It just means
> > that as a baseline we always support that one video format.
> >
> > (My vote is for Ogg Theora to be the defacto standard for the reasons I
> > previously mentioned.)
> >
> >
> > If you want an example of this working.... Just look at RSS.  It's now being
> > supported by all the browsers because it was a defacto standard.  I.e., the
> > browsers added support for RSS because everyone was using it.
> >
> >
> > See ya
> >
> >
> > On 4/4/06, Harold Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I wish there was a format that played great online on most browsers (which
> > would still be IE, unfortunately) and played just as well on the video iPod
> > and the Creative Zen Vision:M device...
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/4/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 3ivx creates mp4 with AAC that's compatible with quicktime 6 & 7, iPod
> > > > and I suspect also the PSP player.  It also looks quite good with dual
> > > > pass encoding.
> > > >
> > > >   -- Enric
> > > >   -======-
> > > >   http://www.cirne.com
> > > >
> > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Johnson"
> > > >
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your response, Enric.  How in particular do you fing 3ivx
> > > > > fits the criteria?
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 4/4/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >  3ivx...though I haven't tried iton PSP, it fits the other criteria.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    -- Enric
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  <petervandijck@> wrote:
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > I want an answer too. I suspect it's a certain encoding for mp4.
> > > > > >  Something
> > > > > >  > that plays on older quicktime installs. And on the video iPod
> > (and
> > > > > >  the PSP
> > > > > >  > if possible).
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Peter
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <supercanadian@> wrote:
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > >  Hello,
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > > IMO, it's Ogg Theora.
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > > You can see why here:
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >
> > http://maketelevision.com/log/why_ogg_theora_matters_for_internet_tv
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > > See ya
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > > On 4/3/06, Harold Johnson < harold.johnson@> wrote:
> > > > > >  > > >
> > > > > >  > > >  Okay, I suspect this one has probably been debated a
> > gazillion
> > > > > >  > > > mazillion times, but I'm going to introduce the topic
> > > > anyway: At
> > > > > >  this point
> > > > > >  > > > in time, what do you think is the best overall digital video
> > > > > >  format for
> > > > > >  > > > videoblogging?
> > > > > >  > > >
> > > > > >  > > > thanks,
> > > > > >  > > >
> > > > > >  > > > Harold
> > > > > >  > > >
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > >
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