Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv

Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:44:49 -0700

from the reading on keith and the girl, however, a bigger and better opportunity would be difficult as, after the end of your contract with podshow, they retain rights to your brand in perpetuity - your name, your logo, your content during your contract and the content that you made coming into it. your website would be theirs. that was my interpretation.

it's just like record labels who sign people up when they are new and then own the rights to their music forever after. podcasting was supposed to be a way to get away from record labels. wasn't that what curry was spouting when he started the thing?

of course, many people will be fine with those terms because they are hoping that fame and fortune will offset the negatives and it might. that's an individual choice (one that i wouldn't make but that's me)

either way, full disclosure is called for.

anne

On 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
also, i think people interested in a podshow type of service are looking for exposure with the hope to land a bigger and better opportunity.  well, that's the whole purpose, right?
this likely holds more value than the content they will put out while in contract with podshow.
its a price you pay for potential money and opportunity. 
cant have it all!

sull


On 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
that's probably what ot comes down to, yes.

do they at least give some sort of royalties if podshow profits from your content?

i think audio 'talk show' type content can often become irrelevent after some time passes whereas video is *more likely* to maintain a higer value as time passes. 
how many people go back and listen to a podcast from a year ago? 
unless these independent shows include quality music, live performances etc.... or is not "entertainment" content, then people would generally have an interest in podcast archives.... but for those interested in a podshow network, its mostly about entertainment and usually in the form of radio talk shows.  so, maybe it doesnt fucking matter who has the rights in actuality and only good for a debate on what is fair to content creators etc. 
again, video is different in my mind.  its possible you have YOU as a visual and that is something you dont nec want to have put out there and remixed and put out of context without your consent (and any other person that is captured). 
there's my besides the point piece of babble. ;)

sull



On 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Hello,

I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling that Adam Curry is using a bit of "word play" to mislead people.  Let me explain.

While technically, they don't "own" the content, it has the effect that they "own" the content.  If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they "own" your content.

Although technically speaking, they don't "own" it... they just have a certain kind of "contract" which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they "owned" it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner.

But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself.


See ya

On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Devlon-

What I said was "Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow
contract he owns all Podshow producers' content".  What he said in the
interview was "content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers".
That said... what else does he need to say?  This was the biggest
concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this
statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would
imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a
problem.

What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?

Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn't
even know I was there.  Personally, I like your pink frilly panties
the best... they frame your butt very nicely.

;)
Casey
http://www.kitkast.com/


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would have steered away from the question all together not opened
> with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...'
>
> And how'd you know I wore panties today?
>
> On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over
this
> >  interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you
> >  were interviewing your idol?  If I was interviewing someone I look up
> >  to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too
> >  many controversial questions.
> >
> >  There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief
happens to
> >  like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she
would be
> >  happy to promote the system and its' founder?
> >
> >
> >  Casey
> >   http://www.kitkast.com/
> >
> >
> >  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , "Andreas Haugstrup"
> >
> >  <solitude@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The
Right
> >  > Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that
they're
> >  > hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad.
> >  >
> >  > - Andreas
> >  >
> >  > On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
> >  > <supercanadian@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > Hello,
> >  > >
> >  > > There's a bit more info there.  But they're really avoid
answering
> >  > > questions
> >  > > there too.
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > See ya
> >  > >
> >  > > On 4/5/06, john coffey <jimmycrackhead2000@> wrote:
> >  > >>
> >  > >> What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on
> >  > >> Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check
> >  > >> out Podcast 411
> >  > >>
> > http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3
> >  > >>
> >  > >> http://www.jchtv.com/
> >  > >>
> >  > >> --- Devlon <duthied@> wrote:
> >  > >>
> >  > >> > http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69
> >  > >> >
> >  > >> > She's a podshow 'gal.  And it shows....where's the
> >  > >> > hard questions?
> >  > >> >
> >  > >> > On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon <mskitka@> wrote:
> >  > >> > >  Thought this was interesting and that others
> >  > >> > might enjoy it...
> >  > >> > >
> >  > >> > >  Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the
> >  > >> > Podshow contract he owns
> >  > >> > >  all Podshow producers' content:
> >  > >> > >
> >  > >> > >   http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69

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