afterall, mefeedia spiders feeds and has thousands of feeds now and is an excellent source for vlogs because of it.
despite this, i chose a different approach for vlogdir..... its community driven directory. people add their vlogs, get proper attribution and can also remove the entry if they log in etc etc... but just because i chose this approach, to avoid need to 'claim' and also to give users more control and flexibility, it doesnt mean that a service like mefeedia (i call mefeedia the vlogospheric vacuum) is doing anything wrong...
it comes down to how a service is representing the channels and the creators. blip, fireant, mefeedia, vlogdir and others do properly respect. veoh decided not to. let's hope they have learned and do a u-turn.
sull
On 4/9/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (a) Yes or no (and only yes or no), have any persons who work for Veoh
> or with Veoh (for pay or not) manually input RSS feeds into the system?
I don't see why this question would matter. People manually input RSS
feeds into any aggregator site or feed directory such as FireAnt,
MeFeedia, Vlogdir, others... what's wrong with that? The issue has
more to do with what Veoh is doing with videos in RSS syndication
rather than how they acquired the feeds.
I'd imagine they did a few things to get the feeds... find various
OPML files distributed by MeFeedia, Vlogdir, FireAnt and other sites
and do a batch import. Utilize their Veoh client install base (which
can act as an aggregator of RSS feeds) and capture the RSS feed URL
each time a user subscribes to a feed using the Veoh client. I see
nothing wrong with either of these practices and the question is very
much beside the point of the conversation here.
-Josh
On 4/9/06, robert a/k/a r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks guys, good points. I'll add one more. Unauthorised copying,
> particularly on a gross basis, creates a negative for videoblogging, it
> could look to others as if ripping-off content is condoned in and by
> the community. Videobloggers, IMHO, don't need this kind of fscked-up
> message being broadcast in conjunction with our work.
>
> Let's give Dmitry another opportunity to demonstrate he's the "good
> guy" by answering TODAY the questions of the group.
>
> Dmitry, If you decide to not dodge the question again, please respond
> to the group here:
>
> (a) Yes or no (and only yes or no), have any persons who work for Veoh
> or with Veoh (for pay or not) manually input RSS feeds into the system?
>
> (b) Given the business you have chosen to be in and the expertise
> required to finance and operate such a business in a regulated
> environment and you and your board's awareness of copyright regulation,
> under what exclusion did you believe you were operating when you copied
> the works of others without authorisation, modified them and otherwise
> ignored the licenses (please identify the exclusion by quoting the
> specific paragraph from the US regulations for all here to read, please
> omit and other language such as job offers and promises of more
> appropriate behaviour in the future)?
>
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Devlon wrote:
>
> > On 4/9/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> How the feeds got there is one of the issues.
> >>
> >> Dmitri could have said yes, we spider, and we apologize. But
> >> instead he
> >> told us directly that Veoh doesn't spider, and that each of his 1600
> >> feeds
> >> were entered manually. (!)
> >
> > I think that might be one reason that people are still pretty upset
> > about this. There is no admitting of the obvious guilt.
> >
>
>
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