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Shut up? Thanks for the great advise Josh.
The point of the matter is that David last said this:
Uhhh...Gumby isnt public domain.
and he also said this:>>> It looks like Veoh and their promise to rid their site of
>>> copyrighted
>>> material was rather empty.
These statements are false.
Let it be known people on the videoblogging list that these statements are not true.
If I dont speak up, no one else will.
On Apr 24, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Josh Leo wrote: what the heck is going on here... both of you shut up and start talking about the issue at hand here... put your ego's aside and have beneficial discussion,.,
On 4/24/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Way to stay off-topic and avoid your dishonest and false statements.
None of it is your fault per say, and I assume you can't help it, but
I only addressed you to let you know that you were wrong.
On Apr 24, 2006, at 1:19 AM, David Howell wrote:
> Oh Andrew...please feel free to get your stubby little fingers typing
> away then. Rather than write back to me though, address whatever it is
> you have to say to the owners of the Gumby copyright.
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> David
> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> David, I could add a pretty long rant about knee jerking responses
>> but I'll just suck it up and get right to the point:
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>> Copyrights and trademarks can expire, lapse or be changed for a
>> number of reasons. I have found that in fact there are several Gumby
>> cartoons that are a part of the public domain. Here are a few:
>> http://tinyurl.com/p283s
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>> On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:45 PM, David Howell wrote:
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>>> Uhhh...Gumby isnt public domain. The little guy is far from that.
>>>
>>> http://www.gumbyworld.com/copy.htm
>>>
>>> It looks like Veoh and their promise to rid their site of
>>> copyrighted
>>> material was rather empty.
>>>
>>> David
>>> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>>>
>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup <joly@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if that's true that Gumby is public domain - it's 60's
>>> right?
>>>>
>>>> However if stuff is in the public domain, yes one is free to make
>>> any kind
>>>> of derivative work, and then even copyright that work.
>>>>
>>>> Hence the development of such animals as the GPL in order to ensure
>>>> that 'free' works can only be spawned into further 'free' works.
>>>>
>>>> joly
>>>>
>>>> At 03:24 PM 4/22/2006, you wrote:
>>>>> I noticed on Veoh, they have a complete Gumby video on the home
>>> page in the 'featured videos' section.
>>>>> <http://veoh.com>http://veoh.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume the particular Gumby video
>>> < http://tinyurl.com/jruf7>http://tinyurl.com/jruf7 is public domain
>>> because Michael Eisner is featuring it, along with a couple of
>>> complete Superman videos that I have seen tagged as public domain on
>>> the Archive before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I am then allowed to use the public domain video of Gumby to
>>> create or recreate my own work, or version, wouldn't that mean
>>> that I
>>> may also freely refashion Gumby for a contemporary world? In
>>> otherwords, if I am able use the video myself to make my own
>>> video, I
>>> would make a new Gumby out of the old Gumby. I would use the
>>> music in
>>> the video, mash the likeness, reshape him a bit physically speaking,
>>> but would especially make his psyche much different; he would do and
>>> say different kinds of things and have different body behaviors, for
>>> instance. I might have some plans to add a couple of permeant
>>> deformations to his walk and give his a few classic behavioral
>>> problems, for instance. Gumby himself could change and evolve
>>> instead
>>> of be trapped in time, the way he is now. Perhaps I could give
>>> the new
>>> Gumby away for free and encourage others to take him and develop
>>> him.
>>> Gumby could be reborn into a global star!
>>>>>
>>>>> Would I be allowed to do all of the above with my public domain
>>> Gumby without getting into trouble with the Gumby trademark and
>>> other
>>> later, non-public domain Gumby stuff claimed to be owned entirely
>>> by a
>>> private entity?
>>>>> < http://tinyurl.com/mgu4q>http://tinyurl.com/mgu4q
>>>>>
>>>>> I would assume that somehow, I would not be able to reshape Gumby,
>>> even if I did it all with the materials that I got from the public
>>> domain Gumby video.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surely, there is a conflict here and I would assume there is a
>>> simple answer that has already been worked out legally. Does anyone
>>> know what that would be?
>>>>>
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