On 1/29/07, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Apple has a link to our website on our podcast page at the iTunes > > Store > > > apparently they are. last i checked i didnt see linkbacks. has this been > the case for a while now? > i dont use itunes much so I was taking mike meiser's word for it. good to > know :) >
I'm not talking about the FUCKING directory. I'm talking about the goddam business end of iTunes. The fucking interface where you play videos and podcasts. The place where you actually LISTEN and WATCH your videos. NOT THE FUCKING DIRECTORY, where your listeners if they are real listeners go once and then never ever ever again... I'm talking about the place in itunes where it shows the feeds you have subscribed to and the items it's downloaded to your computer. In that pane... which is where your subscribers will spend 99.9999% of their time watching your videos... there is not a SINGLE link back to your website. NONE. FICKING NONE. Do people even user itunes!? I sometimes wonder. Because I find it the worst piece of shit experience ever for watching videos. I don't know about anyone else... but I find reading the accompanying post for the video... and going and leaving a comment or visiting the original vlog on occassion a compelling and essential part of the experience.... but iTunes POS interface doesn't have ANY of this important meta info. -Mike > > On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Apple has a link to our website on our podcast page at the iTunes > > Store and we get lots of traffic from them. If it wasn't for Apple > > we wouldn't have the advertisers that we have today. We also have > > lots of comments on our Apple page from people who love us and hate > > us. So there is a place for user feedback. > > > > Apple has been very good to the community. Keep in mind they generate > > no direct revenue from podcasting, and there's no way to quantify any > > indirect revenue on their site at this time. I guess you could set up > > an affiliate account and make some money sending people to iTunes but > > they send way more people to us than we send to them. > > > > I look forward to other big players following Apple's lead and > > stepping up to the plate and creating a UI that is as good as or > > better than Apple iTunes. Competition is a good thing. > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > Tim Street > > Creator/Executive Producer > > French Maid TV > > The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids > > http://frenchmaidtv.com > > Subscribe for FREE on > > <ahref="http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes"; target="_blank">iTunes</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2007, at 9:34 AM, sull wrote: > > > > > I am often disgusted by Apple... > > > Is there even once example of Apple implementing user feedback? > > > Maybe, but from my view, they ignore outside feedback.... > > > especially when it > > > comes to this grass roots media revolution that has been ongoing > > > for 3-4 > > > years. > > > > > > It can be argued that iTunes isnt the same and cant be similarly > > > scrutinized > > > for lacking proper attribution etc... Because they exist to serve > > > MSM first > > > and foremost. > > > But give me one reason for this lack of attribution when they are > > > displaying > > > independent podcasts vodcasts in their directory? What Control > > > Freaks they > > > are! > > > > > > And btw, iTunes is still a terrible UI! They should take the UI of > > > their > > > hardware devices and apply it to their software apps. > > > > > > sull > > > > > > On 1/29/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What still suprises me is that people get so mad at myheavy and all > > > > these others and yet the biggest offender of them all is itunes with > > > > their iTunes. > > > > > > > > They're using 10's of thousands of vloggers and podcasters to build > > > > traffic in their marketplace to sell mainstream media, and more > > > ipods > > > > and macs, and they don't even have the courtesy to give you a reach > > > > arou... I mean a damn permalink in the damn iTunes interface so > > > after > > > > I'm done watching your video or listening to your podcast I can > > > click > > > > back to your website and see your shownotes, comments, or any of > > > that > > > > crap. > > > > > > > > Is it because iTunes is a piece of software and not a webservice, or > > > > because of some steve jobs reality distortion field. > > > > > > > > Make no doubt about it even though apple isn't putting ads > > > directly on > > > > your media they certainly aren't doing you any favors. They're > > > > alienating you from your users. > > > > > > > > So why do we DEMAND permalinks back to the original blog post in > > > > Democracy, Fireant, Mefeedia, Network2, Myheavy and on and on an > > > > one... but simply ignore apple? > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > mefeedia.com > > > > > > > > On 1/28/07, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <k9disc%40mac.com>> wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that videobloggers are going down the same > > > hopelessly > > > > > > unrealistic and ultimately disastrous path as the record > > > labels and > > > > > > movie companies. > > > > > > > > > > That's quite a statement. One that I think is entirely wrong. > > > > > > > > > > I have no problem with you aggregating my video. Even if your site > > > > > has google ads. I'm quite aware that my stuff is totally free > > > as soon > > > > > as I post it on blip. > > > > > > > > > > I just expect that giant media conglomerates, or their subsidiary > > > > > investments (magnify, myheavy,nextnew networks, et al.) give me > > > some > > > > > kind of consideration as a content creator. > > > > > > > > > > If they are making millions, I want a share. If smaller > > > entities are > > > > > gaining notoriety, I want some of that; put a friggin' correct > > > link > > > > > on it for cryin' out loud. > > > > > > > > > > To say that expecting to get royalties off of large economic > > > > > endeavors using our stuff is like a record company is standing > > > > > reality on its head. > > > > > > > > > > It is the myheavys and magnifys that are acting like old school > > > > > record companies; robbing artists of their hard work and > > > creativity; > > > > > screw the talent! > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Lucas Gonze wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/27/07, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<david% > > > 40captainhumphreys.com>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Even accepting reality for what it is, however, there are > > > > > > > many good reasons to continue to push for our rights as > > > creators to > > > > > > > be sacrosanct. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that videobloggers are going down the same > > > hopelessly > > > > > > unrealistic and ultimately disastrous path as the record > > > labels and > > > > > > movie companies. What's driving you is the same misplaced > > > sense of > > > > > > victimization and and righteous anger. > > > > > > > > > > > > Creators don't have sacrosanct rights in the US (except with > > > regard to > > > > > > attribution). That's not just a little wrong, it's wrong in a > > > way > > > > > > which is important. If creators were to be granted sacrosanct > > > rights > > > > > > it would be a massive expansion of copyright at the expense > > > of the > > > > > > public. > > > > > > > > > > > > And not just at the expense of the public, but also at the > > > expense of > > > > > > creators. The 500,000 YouTubers who you want to prevent from > > > mashing > > > > > > up your video have just as much right to make art as you do. If > > > > > > what's at stake is the loss of 500,000 artworks, why does > > > your work > > > > > > trump theirs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sull > > > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > > > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > > > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sull > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
