Well... I'm glad people haven't resorted to name calling. Got to say, while I love podtech I'm a little disapointed at their response. The accussations about lan presenting a one sided story... is it his responsibility to present both sides? Is that even possible? And Scoble's negative conjecture about "loosing money on the vloggies"... is an unecissary and unwarranted resentful remark toward the whole community which reflects poorly on podtech. It is perhaps the thing that disturbs me most about this. Very disapointing. As for bringing up deaths in related people's families... very unforetunate remark.
I don't know what other side to the story there is... The facts are this... Podtech used lan's photo... mistakes happen... noone here holds a grudge... but they've had more then enough time to resolve it and haven't. There's no need to drag the whole thing through the mud on either side... I just hope podtech and lan can resolve the issue so we can leave it quickly and quietly behind. I don't believe it's indicative of any larger issue... it's not like some printing company is selling prints of dozens of Lan's photos for hundreds of dollars each. It was an event to promote videobloggers. I'd hope because of that context Lan would accept an appology from Podtech but that's up to Lan. On a related note, perhaps this will provide some perspective. Some kids from Maryland got their yearbooks recently to find a slew of their facebook pictures in them. How's that for intellectual property theft? How would you have liked to recieve a yearbook only to find a bunch of your pictures from your blog in it? Makes a somewhat subtle duotone photo in the background of a banner seem like a relatively minor incident by comparison. Not to diminish the injustice to Lan, but there are worse things that could have happened. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070627/012707.shtml I hope the matter gets resolved quickly. The only shame here is that it hasn't been resolved already and was allowed to drag out. Group hug? :) -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com On 6/29/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been surprised by all the vitriol. I'd have thought that Podtech would > have built up a couple brownie points with y'all by now, what with their > paying you real money, and hosting awards shows for us all to circle-jerk > at. > > Maybe the lesson here is to get paid First? Once you put something online, > you don't own it anymore than you can claim to own a rainbow hovering above > your house. It's in the public consciousness, part of the firehose of > experiences that we all consume, transitory experiences. I think especially > in this case since it's a digital photo of Casey McKinnon, if anyone has a > claim to some money it would be her. If someone else made a recording of a > song I was playing, and royalties were to be paid for that recording, I'd > likely be the one to receive them. But I wouldn't demand them. Something > just sits wrong with me when I hear about people billing other people for > services that they weren't hired to provide. > > Creative Commons is pretty silly, not as silly as traditional copyright, but > pretty silly. > > I'm heading out of town now so I won't be able to respond to any shit slung > my way for a while :) > > P.S. Lan, you're a badass photog, I'm glad I found your work via this mess. > > -Adam > > > On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Can we give this a rest for a week or two and see what happens? > > > > This group does some very cool things and discovers news worthy > > information all the time and this has the two side talking. > > > > It sounds like something is going to happen and that this will come > > to a settlement but I don't think that will happen untill after the > > 4th of July so can we pause for a little while, bring it back up > > later if we need to and move on to some fun stuff like What iPhone > > line is Steve Garfield standing in? or Why is Ask a Ninja going to > > Israel ? > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > Tim Street > > Creator/Executive Producer > > French Maid TV > > The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids > > http://frenchmaidtv.com > > Subscribe for FREE on > > <ahref="http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes " target="_blank">iTunes</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Devlon Duthie wrote: > > > > > I'm with Carl. > > > > > > If we want to use crowd 'weight' wouldn't an email/blog/pr frenzy > > > be more > > > effective? > > > > > > also, just saying :) > > > > > > -- > > > -Devlon > > > > > > http://devlonduthie.com | http://mefeedia.com | http://node-64.com/ > > > blog > > > MSN: du.th.ied > > > AIM: devlond > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Carl Weaver > > > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:02 AM > > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image? > > > > > > I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan > > > deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the infringement) but > > > to raise it ourselves lets Podtech off the hook a little bit. Okay, so > > > Lan is paid - why should Podtech cough up the dough then? > > > > > > I'm just sayin'... > > > > > > Carl > > > > > > Carl Weaver > > > Photographer > > > http://www.carlweaver.com > > > http://www.camerasamurai.com - Photography education, news, tips > > > and more > > > http://dcmetrostories.com - DC Metro Stories: Stories about the > > > people, > > > places > > > and events in the DC Metro area > > > http://nextlifeintheafternoon.com - A Journey Through Thailand > > > > > > Michael Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > > > no comment.... > > > > > > > > except that i bet we could organize a little crowdfunding effort > > > to pay > > > lan > > > > before podtech does. > > > > care for some competition, podtech? > > > > > > > > lan, how much do we need to raise? > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Adam Quirk > Wreck & Salvage > 551.208.4644 > Brooklyn, NY > http://wreckandsalvage.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
