Great points Frank and Bill. Common sense is not as compelling however as the Frank Sinatra syndrome so many people want to "do it my way."
FWIW I think TubeMogul started off primarily to gather stats for you from multiple sites. The video uploading is a newer feature, and naturally, it you start there it is easier for them to generate stats, as well as make some moolah off the aggregated content. Aloha, Rox On 7/31/07, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > correct, frank. > > these services ARE valuable though. > > it always comes back to the old point some of us have been making > forever... > which is to look at these video hosting "destination" sites as a way to > leverage the audiences that traffic them. when we talked about "why use > youtube" the point that always rings true is this.... to tap into the mass > viewer base.... but with emphasis on bringing those viewers back to your > own > site if they enjoy your content and want to subscribe to you/your > channel(s). the best way to do this is to definately put out content no > matter what the tos are but have your content also hosted on either your > own > host or with services that respect creative commons and/or just have much > better terms for you. as a content producer/distributor, you should > strategically spread your media, so long as you put care in not soley > depending on the youtubes. ideally, uploading teasers/previews or your own > commercials promoting your "shows".... or just personal video messages that > involve you in those communities.... and as people get to know you, they > will follow you.. wherever your home on the net is. > > also, if you are making a show, it can help to upload to many services in > the beginning. if you get popular, then you wont have to do that as much or > at all anymore. that's when you can start having more control. give and > take. play it out. > > for those not interested in promoting shows etc... if you just have > something to say and dont care about tos... you just want to get your > messages out... then thats another reason why these uploader/tracking > services are valuable and time-savers. > > depends on what you want to achieve through your videos. for some, these > services make total sense. > > however, at any point, these services could be killed off unless proper > business relations are made. the youtubes can easily prevent remote/cross > uploads and access to tracking data if they feel it is hurting their bottom > line or breaking terms of service. typically, an API sets the limits of > what can and cannot be done with a service's platform, even if this is not > enforced at this time. > > sull > > On 7/31/07, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > These multi-site uploaders remind me of the multi-site submit companies > > (submit your site to over 10,000 search engines!). Never really worked > for > > me... > > > > For syndication of video, Media RSS is the solution. Manage once, publish > > everywhere. It provides ONE place to manage videos, metadata, and all > > metrics can be consolidated into one place. It provides better control > (at > > least as good as you are going to get nowadays) - if you want a video > > removed, just remove it from your RSS file. Media RSS is also a great > > solution to allow people to watch your video in any player they want. > > > > Unfortunately, most of these video companies require you to upload your > > video (and agree to their TOS), so we are still stuck with the "upload > > your > > video and agree to my TOS problem" until these sites become more open > > networks and accept video feeds. > > > > Just my 2 cents. :) > > > > -Frank > > > > Frank Sinton > > CEO > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <frank%40mefeedia.com> > > http://mefeedia.com/user/franks/ > > > > http://mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Share video blogs > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto: > > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>] > > On Behalf Of Rupert > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:41 AM > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows > > > > I'm really excited by the multi-site uploaders. I've been waiting > > for someone to do this properly. It's important for a lot of > > reasons. Most of all because most people haven't got time to spend > > their lives uploading every video to a dozen different sites, > > entering Titles, Descriptions, tags, etc on each one. So you end up > > missing out on all the people who frequent sites you haven't uploaded > > to. I'd far rather spend that time finding other people's videos, > > watching them and connecting. > > > > To reply to J Rhett Aultman: > > Obviously, it's just the ease of use and range of sites they offer > > that will make them attractive or not. As far as I'm concerned, > > progress is all about automation of all the things that have > > traditionally taken a very long time in making and publishing a > > videoblog. > > Blip has great crossposting options, but doesn't let you upload to > > competitors like youtube - except your myspace blog (not to Myspace > > Video). > > Veoh has a more limited range of sites you can cross-post to than > > those listed by Eric today - and they slap a logo on the front of > > your video. Plus they screwed up all my audio - put it out of sync, > > but Halcyon said a couple of weeks ago that it works well for him. > > > > Rupert > > http://twittervlog.tv/ > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ > > > > On 31 Jul 2007, at 17:19, J. Rhett Aultman wrote: > > > > What makes these sites a preferable choice to other places offering > > similar features? Places like Veoh have offered these kinds of > > syndication, and Blip.tv also has similar features. Why would I want to > > use these sites over others? > > > > -- > > Rhett. > > http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime > > http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime > > > > > just read this on Shelly Palmer's Media 3.0 site. you can sign up for > > > a daily email from him. i find it very useful and concise. thx, eric. > > > > > > > > > VIDMETRIX has launched its own multi-site video uploader. The tool > > > will allow video publishers to automatically distribute their content > > > to seven video-sharing sites: YouTube, MySpace, Metacafe, Google, > > > Yahoo, Revver, and Veoh. Tubemogul, which announced a multi-site > > > uploader last week, is adding 3 new distribution sites to its service > > > today, bringing its total reach to 9 video-sharing sites. > > > > > > > > > MY DAMN CHANNEL is a new online video destination launching this > > > morning. The site will emphasize professional, episodic content, and > > > promises to "disrupt media" by giving content creators artistic > > > freedom. The early roster of professionals includes comedian Harry > > > Shearer, producer Don Was, actor Paul Reiser, and "Web phenom" Andy > > > Milonakis. MDC will syndicate its content across video-sharing sites, > > > and collect advertising revenue. The site has signed a distribution > > > deal with YouTube. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > -- Roxanne Darling "o ke kai" means "of the sea" in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com
