David, you can rest assured that people would have to stay on the lumiere site for over 3 hours before your video would be played. There is a clear link to the blogpost where the video came from right below it (same way iTunes handles videos). I have received no complaints from anyone over the videos being played on the site - I have however received positive feedback from people who think it is a very nice touch. No one has ever e-mailed me or Brittany with a request to remove a link from the site. Any speculation on whether or not the link would be removed would be just that, speculation. Please don't start making up issues that are not there.
Are you are outraged on your own behalf or on the behalf of unknown strangers? Apart from the 3-4 very vocal people in this thread we have received many positive comments from people who have created lumiere videos. They have used the constraints to experiment with the way they produce videos. The most common feedback has been that using the lumiere rules have helped them see video in a new light and that they have helped them break free of the practices they were trapped in (but didn't realize). I will encourage anyone to experiment in such a way, either using the lumiere rules or a different set of constraints. I am partial to the lumiere rules because I think they are formulated in a way that makes creating lumiere videos very easy. I especially hope that Mike Moon who have created many memorable lumiere videos (my favourite is this one from November: http://mmmmmoon.blogspot.com/2007/11/lumiere-falling.html ) is able to see that Brittany's and my intentions for maintaining the project does not need to match with his intentions for creating the videos and that he'll be creating more in the future. He and everyone else should get whatever out of creating lumiere videos they want, each has their own reasons for creating these small, reflective moments. - Andreas Den 17.01.2008 kl. 10:24 skrev David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Jan 16, 2008 10:02 PM, Mike Moon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Adrian: >> To your Question about having video's removed from the list. The only >> solution Andreas has responded with is to "delete the video". Delete >> it from it's original posted location... delete it from Blip (or >> whatever storage location) and lose all links including those to other >> sites or discussions. > > Yeah I really couldn't believe that when I read it. I don't think we > would have accepted such a solution from anyone outside the community > - why should we be expected to here? > > This is more than a simple link. It's our video being actually played > (without the context of our post with it) on another site. Further, > we're called participants - and "We/Our" beliefs are listed in a > manifesto we may not agree with. And the person doing this says "if > you don't like it delete your video from your site (and every other > site that may have linked to it)". > > Besides the fact that it's just simple courtesy to honor the wishes of > members of this community who are asking that their creative works not > be displayed in the context of the manifesto (rather than forcing > their "participation" in something they don't feel their creative > works are in line with) .... > > Its just wrong - we never would have accepted that 'solution' from > anyone else. > > I'm really quite shocked at how its all being handled. > > - Dave > -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen http://www.solitude.dk/
