Posted: http://www.hummingcrow.com/2008/01/17/a-public-request/ Mailed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hereby formally and publicly request that links to my Lumiere videos be removed from videoblogging.info/lumiere/, where they are listed as videos by hummingcrow. I do so for the following reasons: * I disagree with the Lumiere Manifesto published by Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen & Brittany Shoot in August 2007 and do not wish to have my work associated with it by inclusion at videoblogging.info/lumiere/. While I acknowledge that I could force the exclusion of my work by deleting it entirely, I prefer to leave the work published as part of my body of work. I simply wish to disassociate my work from the videoblogging.info web site. I do not have any interest in engaging in a conversation or debate about the manifesto. * While I originally felt no need to request removal of work created prior to the manifesto's publication, I now wish to assist in removing any semblance of speculation from the ongoing discussion, as represented in this message and its quoted posts (http://tinyurl.com/yopy4s), over whether videos would be removed from videoblogging.info/lumiere/ if requested. Sincerely, Cheryl Colan --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > People are free to delete any video and it won't show up. We have still > not received any requests from anyone asking for their links to be > removed. On the other hand we have received many requests to be included. > > If you want to contact the maintainers of the videoblogging.info website > (that'd be Brittany and myself) the e-mail address is right there on the > page. If anyone wants to discuss the actual content of the manifesto and > why we think a reflexive process is important, you can also e-mail us > there. > > - Andreas > > Den 17.01.2008 kl. 13:29 skrev David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Jan 17, 2008 1:07 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Any speculation on whether or not the link would be removed would be > >> just > >> that, speculation. Please don't start making up issues that are not > >> there. > > > > Andreas, I'm not making anything up. YOU said that if we didnt want > > to be included at your site we were free to delete our videos from > > blip/our site. > > YOU said (and I quote) "If you want to have your videos removed simply > > delete them from your website." YOU continued on to expound about the > > link-oriented nature of the web and reaffirmed again in a second email > > that if we didn't want to be listed we should delete our hosted video. > > > >> No one has ever e-mailed me or Brittany with a request to remove a > > link from the site. > > > > I never said they did. However there seems to be some concern here in > > this thread and YOU HAVE STATED that if they don't like they are free > > to delete their video. > > > > My concern is hardly speculative, and I'm certainly not making > > anything up. Please don't start putting word in my mouth. > > > >> David, you can rest assured that people would have to stay on the > >> lumiere > >> site for over 3 hours before your video would be played. > > > > That's hardly the point, Andreas - and I suspect you know that. If it > > took 45 years for my video to show up on a site whose premise I > > disagreed with, I as the creator of the creative work should be able > > to request it not be displayed as "participant". > > > >> There is a clear > >> link to the blogpost where the video came from right below it (same way > >> iTunes handles videos). > > > > Except iTunes doesn't publish a manifesto stating my beliefs / > > inspirations as they relate to my creative works. > > > >> Are you are outraged on your own behalf or on the behalf of unknown > >> strangers? Apart from the 3-4 very vocal people in this thread we have > >> received many positive comments from people who have created lumiere > >> videos. > > > > I'm sure you have gotten good feedback as well. But what about those > > 3-4 people expressing concerns here? Are you going to honor their > > request to not be included, or are you sticking to your "you're free > > to delete your video" stance? > > > > The only thing I was outraged about was your insistent need to default > > to an insulting and combative tone with people who were just trying to > > be part of the community. I said I was shocked about your insistence > > that you would not honor requests for removal (see above where I > > remind you of what YOU said). > > > > > > - Dave > > > > > > -- > Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen > http://www.solitude.dk/ >
