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On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, obviously it's not a bad thing if a director just doesn't want to > do it. Nobody's forcing anyone. My point - and maybe it was badly > made - is that so many other people in unexpected places are using > online video to promote ongoing projects... it seems absurd to me > that filmmakers aren't at the forefront of that phenomenon. And > they're not. Quite the opposite. And yet how many of these feature > films will have a "Making of" movie being shot expensively for the > DVD (or, in past times, for a momentary cable broadcast)? > > > On 5-Sep-08, at 4:25 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote: > > I don't think its exactly Negative if a director doesnt want to blog his > activites or post dailies onto the web. Maybe the director just wants to > show a finished product; many people are like that. > Kent, you're making a movie (Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!!!), do > feel the > need to blog the production process? I assume you guys have talked to > the > producer about this sort of stuff. Is there anything you can share about > that? > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Rupert <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]<rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org>> > wrote: > > > I mean, REALLY - it's now 4-5 years since the people on this list > > started mucking about with this stuff. > > > > And Jan's director is unusual in his use of social media and video to > > document the production of his independent movie?? > > > > Even politicians are now well-versed in using videoblogging and all > > kinds of web video to sell their message as they go along. > > http://johnmccain.blip.tv/ > > > > The Queen has her own YouTube channel, for god's sake. And it's > > quite good. > > http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRoyalChannel > > > > When John McCain and Elizabeth II are more innovative in their use of > > online video than professional moviemakers, you know something is > > seriously rotten in the state of Denmark. > > > > I edited out a lot of swear words from this post. > > > > Rupert > > http://twittervlog.tv > > > > > > On 5-Sep-08, at 4:05 PM, Rupert wrote: > > > > Good for Michael Moore. Yes, some of them are starting to get it. > > But even the ones who are getting it are only partly getting it, and > > - like your director, Jan - are bullied by producers and funders who > > are still a long way from getting it. > > > > In May, I was at a talk about the future of documentaries given by > > Deborah Scranton, who directed War Tapes. > > > > In the end, she advocated YouTube as the best way to get your films > > seen by people. > > > > I asked her how she thought that kind of free distribution fitted > > with getting the considerable funding needed to make big > > documentaries like hers. > > > > She didn't have an answer. > > > > And then I asked her whether it was OK for The War Tapes to be > > distributed on YouTube so that it got viewed by more people. > > > > She said "Oh, that's a question for the producer." > > > > I was really disappointed with her. One moment, she was saying "It's > > great for you little people to get your films in front of an audience > > on YouTube" - and the next, she wouldn't even give her personal view > > about her own film being shown that way, to a room full of emerging > > documentary filmmakers. > > > > These questions are no brainers to me, and yet she was supposed to be > > giving an authoritative view about the future of documentaries. It's > > all very easy for established filmmakers to say "Up and coming > > filmmakers should use YouTube" - but if they say that, then they have > > to be able to justify why THEY should use it, too - regardless of > > what the studio's lawyers say in 2008. Otherwise it's just a > > bullshit platitude to make them sound like they get it. And it > > doesn't address the problem of how big documentaries will be funded > > ten years from now. > > > > I'm always amazed at how long it takes TV and Film professionals to > > understand and get excited about this stuff, instead of seeing it as > > a financial threat. > > > > Rupert > > http://twittervlog.tv > > > > On 5-Sep-08, at 3:29 PM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: > > > > Great news, really. > > > > They begin to 'get it'. > > > > Ha! > > > > Bwah-hahaha. > > > > Yes!!!!!!!!! > > > > The director of the indie movie I just finished mixing ("City > > Island") is > > putting clips from dailies (bloopers & such) online on his blog > through > > YouTube. > > > > < > > http://moviestildawn.blogspot.com/2008/09/city-island-empire-diner- > > moment.html > > > > > > > The producers had him cease and desist for about a week during > > production, > > but blog comments convinced 'em it was the right thing to do. > > > > One producer at a time... > > > > The director also wants to break his previous movie ("Two Family > House") > > into 10-minute segments and put the whole thing on YouTube - and WILL > > eventually. The director definitely gets it. > > > > Jan > > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Jay dedman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <jay.dedman%40gmail.com><jay.dedman%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > Michael Moore is putting out his new film, "Slacker Rising", on > > the web > > > through blip.tv (for free). > > > > > > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080905-michael-moore-skips- > > box-office-film-heads-straight-to-net.html > > > > > > "*Slacker Uprising* details Moore's tour of 62 US cities in an > > attempt to > > > rally young voters before the presidential election in 2004. Moore > > says > > > that > > > he originally considered releasing the movie in theaters, as he > > did with > > > his > > > 2004 film criticizing the Bush Administration, *Fahrenheit 9/11*. > > However, > > > he decided to go the online route instead as a symbol of gratitude > > to his > > > fans. "I thought it'd be a nice way to celebrate my 20th year of > > doing > > > this," Moore told the Associated > > > Press<http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php? > > id=12199>. > > > "And also help get out the vote for November. I've been thinking > > about what > > > I want to do to help with the election this year." > > > > > > I know Michael Moore and Radiohead have built-in audiences, but it > > is also > > > getting people used to these new distribution models. > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jan McLaughlin > > Production Sound Mixer > > air = 862-571-5334 > > aim = janofsound > > skype = janmclaughlin > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > Schlomo Rabinowitz > http://schlomolog.blogspot.com > http://hatfactory.net > AIM:schlomochat > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
