Dear Steven,

Actually, my job is to analyze shots, sound, etc. I first have to see them
as a whole but then for months I have to look at films frame by frame down
to the dust and scratch marks and though I may have trouble recognizing
Bette Davis, I'm very good at guessing who the cinematographer is by just
watching a scene. That's my lunacy. But my success in my job as an archivist
is because I'm watching it in a quiet, dark room, except for when the
beagles see a dog walking by the house. I can always tell the students who
have a key to the projection room and watch films over and over again. We
may marry later in life (and that's becoming an outdated stereotype with the
generation after me) but we know film.

As for Scorsese, he's definitely New York and only New York. Your image of
Hollywood can safely be kept alive, though I don't have the experience to
prove or disprove.

Dennis

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Milewski, Steven <smile...@utk.edu> wrote:

>  I’m going to throw my hat in the ring and disagree on some on the points
> below, and I’m not trying to pick on Dennis
>
>
>
> If the set-up in the commons has the screen pointed away from the masses
> (or in an alcove) and/or the student is listening to it in such a way that
> the sound is not broadcast (earphones) then it is not “open to the public”.
> A viewing session by a patron should not have to be in a hermetically sealed
> mayonnaise jar.
>
>
>
>
>
> “Films should be seen in the dark and the only sound should be coming from
> the speakers”
>
> -       Students are not always seeking a “film experience” when they are
> watching a film (even a feature film) particularly for a film studies
> class.  They are often analyzing the shots, use of lighting, comparing
> scenes, sound effects, etc.  They are doing this because it is going to be
> required in a report, paper or test, not because they choose to relax and
> enjoy this particular video.  Note taking and writing often accompany it
> with its required light(and yes sometimes coffee).  I will say that doing
> this in a commons environment wouldn’t be my particular first choice.
>
>
>
> I don’t know the details of the “closed reserve” that Anotella is talking
> about – I’m assuming they are library copies not personal copies.
>
>
>
> I am also a little disappointed to hear about Scorsese’s lack of a wet
> bar.  Not because I would approve (or disapprove), but because I have a
> certain image of Hollywood.
>
>
>
> Steven
>
>
>
> Steven Milewski
>
> Digital Media Technologies Librarian
>
> Hodges Library
>
> Integrated User Services
>
> 865 - 974 - 2647
>
> smile...@utk.edu
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Doros
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:08 PM
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed
> reserves
>
>
>
> Dear Anotella,
>
>
>
> Answering the specific question: if the professor is present and the
> screening can *only* be seen by the students in the class, I don't see a
> problem. But if it's open space for everybody and/or he's off downing jello
> shots, it does violate PPR.
>
>
>
> *If* it's film studies or any feature film and forgive me for the
> following, for this is a criticism of the teacher and not you:
>
>
>
> What kind of *&^#%$ teacher (and this is why I suggest you should check his
> alcohol levels) shows film in an open space where there's continuous noise
> interruptions and temptations of pizza and coffee from the cafe??? What kind
> of film experience needs comfy chairs? (a Monty Python reference, by the
> way.) Cinema, like any art, has the ability to change lives, but it's a lot
> tougher when somebody's shouting across the room to get them a latte or toss
> them a book. Was Kane's dying words, "Earbuds?" Did Rhett Butler actually
> say, "Frank, my dear, let's go to Birmingham?"
>
>
>
> Films should be seen in a dark room and the only sound should be coming
> from the speakers. Trust me, Martin Scorsese's screening room does not have
> a wet bar.
>
>
>
> So, the answer is no, for so many, many reasons.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Dennis Doros
> Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
> PO Box 128
> Harrington Park, NJ 07640
> Phone: 201-767-3117
> Fax: 201-767-3035
> email: milefi...@gmail.com
> www.milestonefilms.com
>
> www.ontheboweryfilm.com
> www.arayafilm.com
> www.exilesfilm.com
> www.wordisoutmovie.com
> www.killerofsheep.com
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>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Antonella Ward <
> antonella.w...@angelo.edu> wrote:
>
> Kind Videolib-L folks,
>
>
>
> I have what I think is an interesting question for you this morning.
> Apologies if this issue has been discussed ad nauseam before.  I have not
> searched the list archives for possible answers to this dilemma.
>
>
>
> I oversee the Media collection in our library, and we have recently opened
> the doors to our new Learning Commons, equipped with the latest and greatest
> technology we could afford.  Our Learning Commons consist  of a wide open
> space, with couches, chairs, computers, tables, nooks, and plenty of 40-inch
> wide screen monitors.  A faculty member recently placed a couple of our DVDs
> on closed reserve, and asked if his students could watch them on one of the
> monitors in our Learning Commons (where the seating is more comfortable, and
> they could grab a snack from our café with the movie).
>
>
>
> Before we had a Learning Commons, use of our Media closed reserves was
> limited to the Media area, where we have a dedicated viewing room with all
> the necessary equipment.
>
>
>
> Would we be in violation of copyright laws if we allowed our students to
> watch our closed reserves in the Learning Commons instead of our Media
> viewing room?
>
>
>
> I look forward to your thoughts on this matter.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Description: cid:image001.gif@01C9CD63.2D528950]
>
> * *
>
> *Antonella Ward*
> *Multimedia Support Librarian/Porter Henderson Library*
> Angelo State University
> Member, Texas Tech University System
> ASU Station #11013
> San Angelo, TX 76909-1013
> Phone: (325) 942-2313   Fax: (325) 942-2198
> *antonella.w...@angelo.edu*
>
> ************************************************
>
> "Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or
>
> we know where we can find information upon it."
> *(Samuel Johnson)*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>


-- 
Best,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128
Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117
Fax: 201-767-3035
email: milefi...@gmail.com
www.milestonefilms.com
www.ontheboweryfilm.com
www.arayafilm.com
www.exilesfilm.com
www.wordisoutmovie.com
www.killerofsheep.com
AMIA Austin 2011: www.amianet.org
Join "Milestone Film" on Facebook!
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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