Lauren, What makes you think that just because you have a title "streaming" doesn't mean you won't have to buy it again? Computers go out of date, "this file system is no longer supported", new editions of the same title come out-or a higher def format is now available. In an ideal world yes, a streamed program would end the replacement/update game, but I'm not sold that that will be the case and I believe we will be updating "formats" for the foreseeable future.
Not only that many streaming products, have to be paid for annually so you may not be replacing the title but you are certainly paying for that title each year if you are purchasing as a "subscription". (ASP offers them annually licensed as well as one time purchase w/perpetual rights--which is a nice option, but not allow streaming providers work like this). And yes, I am aware that other companies are offering streaming "files" for purchase individually and I applaud them for that. Myles Jaeschke Tulsa City County Library Media Collections -----Original Message----- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Corbett, Lauren E. Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:02 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification I'm interested in products that are streaming because I don't have the money to replace the same titles every time the next greatest format comes along. We would still like to replace some VHS and laserdisc. Also to support distance programs we need more online products and interest in video to support teaching seems to keep growing. I was excited to hear about ASP's plans to allow title-by-title selection in Filmakers Library Online. Apparently this was announced at ALA Midwinter, but I haven't seen anything yet that it is an available option right now, just plans. On the other hand, I'm appalled by the pricing that Swank has been promoting for Digital Campus and the limitation of delivery to a specific class is not useful for building a collection. I'm going to watch a demo of it again tomorrow anyway and think about whether it is a last ditch solution to some knotty problems related to films on Reserve. Anybody already using Swank and care to comment? Lauren Lauren Corbett Director of Resource Services, Z. Smith Reynolds Library Ph: 336-758-6136 -----Original Message----- From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu [mailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:44 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hey Jon With all due respects to ASP, it is my opinion that the stuff they're vending is in no way competitive to what the Icaruses, Bullfrogs, WMMs and New Days of the world are selling. Unless...librarians get really stupid (or cowed)and decide that they're going to begin buying because the delivery mechanisms and platforms are sexy and attractive (rather than the content). Gary > Thanks, no I was more interested in what trend it may or may not represent > re what is happening to AV purchasing - ie are new people buying/licensing > material w/ the new media options, and/or are they buying w/ new money > Ie is ASP additive to our business (potentially), or frightful > competition? > JM > > > > Jonathan Miller > President > Icarus Films > 32 Court Street, 21st Floor > Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA > > tel 1.718.488.8900 > fax 1.718.488.8642 > www.IcarusFilms.com > jmil...@icarusfilms.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:14 AM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification > > Hi > > The Anthro librarian came into a huge chunk of unrestricted donation money > and is looking for ways to spend it intelligently. I've bought stuff > selectively for that department for years (they tend to be very focused in > what they use, even more so since the demise of the visual anthropology > specialization in the department). So: Anthro decided to buy the ASP > ethnography collection as part of this (despite my dissuasion), and yes, > they have been underwriting the acquisition of selected DVDs as well. And > no, she hasn't opted for scoring all or part of the DER collection (yet). > It's her money...what can I tell you? > > Oh, wait...I get it, Jon. You want to pitch her as a new (fatted) > customer. > Well, have at it. > > Gary > > > >> Dear Gary >> >> I have a side question about what you wrote - does your Anthro >> Librarian buy DVDs? Ie, did the Antho librarian purchasing the ASP >> Ethno (DER) collection (outright? Or subscription?) represent new AV >> purchasing (money) and a new customer/buyer - or is this instead of >> either the Anthro librarian's acquisition of DVD or your acquisition >> of DVD? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan Miller >> President >> Icarus Films >> 32 Court Street, 21st Floor >> Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA >> >> tel 1.718.488.8900 >> fax 1.718.488.8642 >> www.IcarusFilms.com >> jmil...@icarusfilms.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:34 PM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification >> >> Hi Rhonda >> >> Berkeley currently has access to ASP's Theater on Video, which was >> licensed via the California Digital Library as a consortial buy...I >> was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. >> >> We also have ASP's Ethnographic Video collection, purchased by our >> Anthro librarian with $ from a major grant...I was not a strong >> supporter, but I was out-voted. >> >> I have gone on record on videolib and elsewhere regarding my serious >> qualms about buying into curated or pre-assembled collections. These >> may be useful in some institutions, but at a place like Berkeley, even >> with rigorous publicity, only a tiny fraction of the collection will >> ever be used in any respect. That's just the way it goes here... I >> floated the ASP Dance collection past dance faculty awhile back, and >> they pretty much sniffed it >> away: the stuff they wanted simply wasn't represented and they weren't >> about to shuffle the syllabus to fit the collection. >> >> In hard financial times particularly, seems to me that focused >> selection that pays careful attention to short and long term need >> (rather than a grab-bag strategy)is the only responsible way to go. >> >> Gary Handman >> >> By the way, I really respect and like ASP, I just wish they allowed >> pick-and-choose options regarding their collections. >> >> >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> So, when you are looking at whether to purchase one of the streaming >>> packages, Alexander St., Films Media group, or whatever, what are >>> your justifications ? >>> >>> Do you look at all the usage stats of each title included in the >>> package, and if so, how many uses and of how many of the titles is >>> considered high enough to justify purchasing? >>> What criteria are you using to persuade powers that be that they are >>> worthwhile? >>> >>> Just curious, >>> rhonda >>> >>> Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services William H. Hannon Library >>> | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, >>> | CA >>> 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| >>> http://library.lmu.edu<http://library.lmu.edu/> >>> "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where >>> people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy >>> of employing wild animals as librarians." >>> --Monty Python >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> > > > Gary Handman > Director > Media Resources Center > Moffitt Library > UC Berkeley > > 510-643-8566 > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC > > "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." > --Francois Truffaut > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries > and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
