I kind of thought that was ironic myself but pretty irrelevent since again the overwhelming majority of the titles UCLA streamed where standard retail copies they probably paid an average of $25 for if they got a discount for quantity from a wholesaler.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:47 PM, jwoo <j...@cca.edu> wrote: > I like that notion that if we do pay for PPR, then we can stream. > Justifies the tiered institutional rates as well as more limited rights for > home-use videos > > On May 26, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: > > No they streamed thousands of films without PPR even in at least one case > where they had literally signed a contract not to, in theory this was the > perfect case because UCLA admitted to streaming the thousands of films, > unfortunately it appears the judge looked only narrowly at the Ambrose > titles. The studios and their reps have basically done nothing though I > suspect as they realize how much more widespread this is, they may wake up. > For the record not only did UCLA stream titles they had no right to , they > also used crappy copies in many cases. They could not even be bothered to by > a recent DVD so they streamed 20 plus year old videos. I am sure they looked > like utter crap but given the rest of their attitude I doubt they cared. > > Despite the image you get in the media of things like this , it was small > educational companies fighting a much better financed university. If and > when the big rights holders get involved I am sure things will be different. > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Susan Albrecht <albre...@wabash.edu>wrote: > >> Thank you for the text, Peter. >> >> One further question. Is anyone in a position to know whether, for *each* >> film UCLA streamed, it truly had paid for PPR? I know that still doesn't >> address, for a lot of us, the issue of format change, but I'm curious >> whether UCLA really thought ahead enough to limit its streamed offerings to >> those for which it had obtained PPR, and never streamed, for instance, a >> feature film.... >> >> Susan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: >> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Hartogs >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:00 PM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case >> >> Law360, New York (May 2, 2011) -- A federal judge in California indicated >> Monday she would dismiss a breach of contract suit alleging the University >> of California, Los Angeles, violated the copyrights of educational video >> makers when it implemented a system for streaming videos online to students >> and faculty. >> >> The tentative ruling, if entered, would bring clarity to the rights of >> colleges and universities that argue the public performance rights they >> purchased with educational films give them the legal authority to bring >> videos into the virtual classroom space. >> >> >> >> "The court's tentative would be to grant the motion to dismiss," U.S. >> District Judge Consuelo B. Marshall told attorneys in the case Monday. >> "The big issue is whether plaintiffs' counsel will seek leave to amend." >> >> The judge indicated that granting leave to amend in the case was not a >> foregone conclusion. >> >> Attorneys for the Association for Information Media and Equipment, a >> national trade association of educational content producers and >> distributors, filed an amended complaint in February arguing that UCLA and >> top school administrators breached contracts and violated copyrights when >> they deployed Video Furnace, a system that allowed students and teachers to >> stream videos like "The Plays of William Shakespeare" over the Internet. >> >> Ambrose Video Publishing Inc., the Shakespeare film's distributor, is also >> a plaintiff in the action. AVP offers its own video streaming service, >> Ambrose 2.0, the complaint says. >> >> The plaintiffs argue that after they confronted UCLA with possible legal >> action, the school suspended use of its online streaming system. But "after >> a winter-break period of reflection," the school brought the system back >> online, according to the complaint. >> >> "We have exhibits showing that the decision to stop and restart streaming >> was made at the highest levels of the school's administration," attorney >> Arnold Lutzker, who represents the plaintiffs, told the judge. >> >> The complaint accuses UCLA of hypocrisy, applying for over 1,700 >> copyrights in the past three decades and vowing in policy statements to >> uphold copyright law, even as its streaming system violated the copyrights >> of PBS Video, Icarus Films and other AIME members. >> >> The university's video streaming system "does not have to be an >> educational setting," the complaint said. "For example, the student with >> access to the UCLA network can be in a WiFi hot spot anywhere, such as at >> Starbucks coffee shops off campus." >> >> But attorneys for UCLA countered that the videos at issue had come with an >> unambiguous license printed in bold on the Ambrose video catalog: "All >> purchases by schools and libraries include public performance rights." >> >> The streaming system only allows students to play videos online if an >> instructor assigns the video and only if they are currently enrolled in the >> class, according to UCLA >> >> This use, the university argues, was permitted by the public performance >> rights that Ambrose explicitly granted. >> >> Attorneys for UCLA also claim that the plaintiffs' state law causes of >> action are preempted by the federal Copyright Act., that AIME doesn't have >> standing to bring suit on behalf of its members and that University of >> California administrators are constitutionally immune from suit in federal >> court. >> >> In a statement issued in March 2010, UCLA's vice provost of information >> technology Jim Davis described the school's decision to restart streaming as >> a principled stance. >> >> "We're well aware the outcome of this dispute could affect other >> educational institutions, and it's important that UCLA take a leadership >> role and demonstrate just how critical the appropriate use of technology is >> to our educational mission." >> >> The complaint lists 11 counts, including copyright infringement, breach of >> license agreement and illegal circumvention of copyright protection systems >> under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. It seeks injunctive relief, >> actual and punitive damages, statutory damages, and attorneys' >> fees. >> >> A representative for AIME declined to comment Monday. A representative for >> UCLA pointed to the school's March 2010 statement. >> >> The plaintiffs are represented by Lutzker & Lutzker and Mulcahy LLP. >> >> The defendants are represented by Keker & Van Nest LLP. >> >> The case is Association of Information Media and Equipment et al. v. The >> Regents of the University of California et al., case number 2:10-cv-09378, >> in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. >> >> --Editing by Chris Giganti. >> >> Peter Hartogs >> Vice President, Business Development >> Landmark Media >> 3450 Slade Run Drive >> Falls Church, VA 22042 >> pe...@landmarkmedia.com >> www.landmarkmedia.com >> 703-241-2030 >> 1-800-342-4336 >> 703-536-9540 (fax) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:56 AM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case >> >> Since I don't feel like signing up for a free trial, do you care to >> summarize the juicy bits? Does it offer any explanation for the judge's >> inclination? >> >> Susan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:37 AM >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: [Videolib] UCLA Case >> >> Wow...I'm really surprised. >> >> http://www.law360.com/articles/242725/ucla-streaming-video-copyright-case- >> on-thin-ice >> >> >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> > > > > -- > Jessica Rosner > Media Consultant > 224-545-3897 (cell) > 212-627-1785 (land line) > jessicapros...@gmail.com > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as > an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
