I thought French films were never PD in Canada or I suppose you just mean you got it from a company releasing PD films in the US? FYI if the VHS came from 86 restoration with a new score ( or even an old one) I don't think it could ever have been PD as opposed to a bootleg of the restoration.
Any idea why it is not released even in France? I know you love it and maybe I should give it another try if it plays in NYC ( which it did again recently), but the one time I tried to watch I was so bored I left, which is rare for me. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Oksana Dykyj <oks...@alcor.concordia.ca>wrote: > The Bois D'arcy archival restoration dates from 1986. The VHS has > excellent visuals and sound (for a VHS). The NTSC copy I have came from a > PD distributor. The film is indeed very long but then again how often do we > get a chance to see an ensemble production such as this: Paul Poiret did the > costume design, Robert Mallet-Stevens did the architectural design, PIerre > Chareau was responsible for some of the furniture, Rene Lalique for some of > the objects, Fernand Leger designed the sets for the laboratory sequences. > Claude Autant-Lara and Alberto Cavalcanti also contributed various design > elements. It's a veritable who's who of design in the gestating pre-art deco > period right before the 1925 Paris exposition. The film is rather > significant historically for this purpose rather than for its narrative. The > credits on the restoration indicate that Darius Milhaud did the score for > the film in 1925 but that it was subsequently lost and the Bois D'Arcy > restoration credits its original musical score to Jean Christophe Desnoux. > The producer of the 1986 restoration is La Boite a images, and director > Jean Dreville was responsible for the tinting and toning in the restoration. > I love this movie: it has a dining room where the eating area is on a kind > of moat surrounded by a pool and Jaque Catelain tools around in a beautiful > Bugatti. Art Deco heaven to be sure. > > Oksana > > > At 08:45 AM 23/08/2011, you wrote: > > Another side note, even if the VHS was produced prior to GATT (1998) taking > effect, the score would almost surely be under copyright. You would be > surprised how many pirates of films that might be PD then use copyrighted > scores. Many years ago Kino was a decent settlement with a company that > literally ripped of the Kino version of STEAMBOAT BILL JR which is indeed a > PD title. Perhaps the funniest one was a major chain that bought a ripped > off version of QUEEN KELLY. The even left the KINO LOGO on the DVD (while > putting in a crappy box). > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Shoaf,Judith P <jsh...@ufl.edu> wrote: I > have thought about the ins and outs of treating the item as public domain > though I didn't think of section 108 because I'm just a language lab, not a > library. The first 1/2 hour is in fact available online; last night I > watched about 15 minutes of it and found that viewing it in a small window > helps with the "torn and dirty pages" quality Jessica mentions; also, it has > a terrific performance of the score (by Milhaud) which I presume dates from > a postwar recording/performance (i.e. not PD) and really helps to juice up > the strange rhythms of the film. I am not sure I could make a better digital > copy from the tape, and NTSC VHS from SECAM VHS is not likely to be much > good either. > > Apparently there was an NTSC copy in the media library, and I think that > probably means it was released in the US at some point. Apparently a prof > who has left UF took it with her and it is now on its way back. I will look > to see whether it's a US release with English subs. > > The professor's 80's SECAM copy is probably the best option--I assume it is > based on the restoration/orchestral performance used to make the online > video, but it would be better visual quality. > > I think that the professor is likely to agree with Jessica about the film > being boring--she told me she has never watched the whole thing but wanted > to use it for the class because of the subject matter (Paris fashion in the > movies). My impression is that the reason the online project only presents > the first half hour (about 1/5 of the whole film, I gather) is that this is > the bit that has the moderne costumes, sets, and special effects which make > the film "important." (The other interesting thing is the sci-fi/horror > themes!) > > Jessica, you mentioned a recent restoration, but nobody has said anything > about a DVD release. Does anyone know if it has been picked up for release? > Has anyone seen the restoration--it would be interesting to know how well it > "reads" in terms of the visuals...? > > Judy > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. 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