I honestly would be very, very disappointed if DVDs were discontinued by 
Icarus!  I know that, as a small residential college, we are different than big 
universities and/or those with lots of distance ed and online courses.  Still, 
I also know that we are not unique and that there are many small schools out 
there purchasing film in physical format.  I definitely still attempt to build 
a collection, not just acquire access.

Randal alluded to the budget thing, and I’ll just say, “Yes!”  For me, it still 
makes most sense to use our limited dollars to purchase DVDs, rather than 
arrange for streaming.  Yes, docs can be pricey in DVD format, too, but having 
them available for years and years as opposed to 1-year or 3-year licenses 
matters.  And DVD is DEFINITELY preferred to short-term licensing of an 
individual title.  That screams “rental” to me, and that’s just not something 
our budget can support.  Sarah mentioned buying feature films in DVD format, 
and it’s true that the difference is more marked there, where the DVD only 
costs $25.  So “bang for your buck” is absolutely more apparent in the feature 
film realm, but it still holds on the doc and educational side for us, too.

Please don’t stop! ☺

Susan

Susan Albrecht
Graduate Fellowship Advisor
Library Media Acquisitions Manager
Wabash College Lilly Library
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From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:08 PM
To: Videolib <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

For me, the only equivalent for a DVD purchase is a streaming video with 
in-perpetuity rights that we can host locally. We have many VHS tapes and DVDs 
from companies like Carousel, Films Inc., and LAVA that have gone out of 
business - but we can still use their titles because we own a tangible version. 
That wouldn't be the case if the only option was to license a streaming version 
hosted by the distributor.
I understand that this is the direction the studios are headed because the 
average person has adapted to using Netflix, iTunes. etc. but teaching needs 
are different and specialized documentaries (or features) that are perfect for 
a given class may be used regularly long after a distributor has gone out of 
business. It's just the way that classes get taught. Some professors figure out 
a lesson plan and more or less set it on autopilot for a couple decades.  So my 
hope was that independent educational distributors would be at the tail end of 
the DVD weaning process.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Miller 
<jmil...@icarusfilms.com<mailto:jmil...@icarusfilms.com>> wrote:
Dear Videolib friends

As many of you know Icarus Films has been helping to build, and currently has 
over 300 titles on, Docuseek2, to provide colleges and universities streaming 
access to our collection over the internet.

Yes, we continue to invest in producing and releasing DVDs of the same titles. 
And, as streaming usage increases, selling fewer and fewer of them.

It is making me wonder if we should stop selling DVDs altogether, not producing 
them at all for new films, and not ordering any more once we sell the last one 
of an older one.

What do you think would happen if we did that?

How many of you would definitely NOT buy or use a film that a professor or 
collection development librarian wanted to have, if it was ONLY available via 
streaming?

I’m serious in asking this question, I think it may be time to take a (perhaps) 
drastic step, and not another small incremental one.  What do you think?  
Thanks!

Curiously yours,

Jonathan Miller



Jonathan Miller
President
Icarus Films
32 Court Street, 21st Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201

www.IcarusFilms.com<http://www.icarusfilms.com/>
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Tel 1.718.488.8900<tel:1.718.488.8900>
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