If there is no physical copy, then we lose certainty in being able to take 
advantage of exceptions to copyright like fair use, replacement/preservation 
(under section 108), etc., since digital copies that are not in physical form 
would always be licensed.

Michael Brewer | Librarian | Head, Research & Learning | 
brew...@email.arizona.edu<mailto:brew...@email.arizona.edu>

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 10:19 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

I think it is very important to have physical copies. Rights change , contracts 
expire. I was literally discussing this last weekend with Nancy Gerstman of 
Zeitgeist who said they were not going to do a physical release of their new 
film COURT. I suggested that they make a DVD-R available without chapters or 
fancy boxing and she said she could do that. I think the technology of making a 
bare bones DVD is pretty easy and cheap. I urge educational distributors in 
particular to keep this option.
This is how WB and some other studios are making many wonderful films with 
limited demand available and you can even skip the artwork
Jessica

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Chris Lewis 
<cle...@american.edu<mailto:cle...@american.edu>> wrote:
For me, the only equivalent for a DVD purchase is a streaming video with 
in-perpetuity rights that we can host locally. We have many VHS tapes and DVDs 
from companies like Carousel, Films Inc., and LAVA that have gone out of 
business - but we can still use their titles because we own a tangible version. 
That wouldn't be the case if the only option was to license a streaming version 
hosted by the distributor.
I understand that this is the direction the studios are headed because the 
average person has adapted to using Netflix, iTunes. etc. but teaching needs 
are different and specialized documentaries (or features) that are perfect for 
a given class may be used regularly long after a distributor has gone out of 
business. It's just the way that classes get taught. Some professors figure out 
a lesson plan and more or less set it on autopilot for a couple decades.  So my 
hope was that independent educational distributors would be at the tail end of 
the DVD weaning process.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Miller 
<jmil...@icarusfilms.com<mailto:jmil...@icarusfilms.com>> wrote:
Dear Videolib friends

As many of you know Icarus Films has been helping to build, and currently has 
over 300 titles on, Docuseek2, to provide colleges and universities streaming 
access to our collection over the internet.

Yes, we continue to invest in producing and releasing DVDs of the same titles. 
And, as streaming usage increases, selling fewer and fewer of them.

It is making me wonder if we should stop selling DVDs altogether, not producing 
them at all for new films, and not ordering any more once we sell the last one 
of an older one.

What do you think would happen if we did that?

How many of you would definitely NOT buy or use a film that a professor or 
collection development librarian wanted to have, if it was ONLY available via 
streaming?

I’m serious in asking this question, I think it may be time to take a (perhaps) 
drastic step, and not another small incremental one.  What do you think?  
Thanks!

Curiously yours,

Jonathan Miller



Jonathan Miller
President
Icarus Films
32 Court Street, 21st Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201

www.IcarusFilms.com<http://www.icarusfilms.com/>
http://HomeVideo.IcarusFilms.com<http://homevideo.icarusfilms.com/>

Tel 1.718.488.8900<tel:1.718.488.8900>
Fax 1.718.488.8642<tel:1.718.488.8642>
jmil...@icarusfilms.com<mailto:jmil...@icarusfilms.com>


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.



--
Chris Lewis  American University Library  202.885.3257<tel:202.885.3257>


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.



--
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com<mailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Reply via email to