I believe the schedule and presentation slides are online.

Most librarians are trying to be the good guy and not rip other people off. I 
suggest you start actually attending these conferences before issuing 
uninformed blanket judgments from anonymous IP attorneys who weren't even 
there. Context is key.


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On Jun 10, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Jessica Rosner 
<maddux2...@gmail.com<mailto:maddux2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Sarah
Out of curiosity I checked with two copyright lawyers I know. Neither actually 
knew of the Kraemer seminars and neither had heard the one law film that was a 
sponsor ( along with many academic groups) but said that person listed as their 
IP leader was a trademark lawyer who was not involved in copyright law. I would 
sincerely be interested in any more information on the IP lawyers and their 
presentations if you remember them. I understand this a conference from the 
Academic perspective but  I remain highly cynical that rights holders were 
fairly represented.

Again my big issue is that too much of this is echo chamber discussion and that 
these issues need to be discussed and debated by a much broader and balanced 
group.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
<sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>> wrote:
Hi Jessica,

You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was sponsored 
by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual property. Several IP 
attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations and engaged with attendees 
informally in discussions.

Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to the 
event.

Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>


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On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner 
<jessicapros...@gmail.com<mailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com>> wrote:

My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film 
released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all  these 
"theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo chamber. IF 
institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should state so 
publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders particularly major 
studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty little secret is that  
a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on but rights holders are in the 
dark and have no way to legally challenge it. Now I don't actually expect a 
school to send a letter to Disney saying "We are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 
intro to animation students and we don't believe we need to pay you or get your 
permission" but it would be interesting if they did and might actually result 
in  the kind of legal clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for 
there to be more balance in the voices,sources that the educational community 
solicits for opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many 
webinars, seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, 
filmmaker or similar to participate?

Jessica

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
<sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>> wrote:
I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an 
indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much more 
information.

It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.


Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>


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On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros 
<milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...

"performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work otherwise than in a 
transmission to the public"

The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually meaning a 
by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public is not 
permitted.


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly 
<deg.farre...@asu.edu<mailto:deg.farre...@asu.edu>> wrote:
Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth Crewes 
and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)

At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the non-profit 
exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.

Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about before.  
Sarah McClesky commented similarly.

Worth looking into further....this may be an exemption that allows student 
groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works without securing 
public performance rights!

deg farrelly


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