Hello Timo I know of three original guitars that look like Faria's. The first one is even for sale: http://www.renard-music.com/selectficheinstrument.php3?1000048
and two in the Cité de la Musique, inventory numbers E.980.2.296 and E.980.2.297 http://www.cite-musique.fr/anglais/musee/collections.html Jelma van Amersfoort =============== On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Peedu Timo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is one solution http://www.lucianofaria.com/ > Go to the guitar page and scroll down a little. This may be somewhat late for > earlier continuo, plus it's single strung and has six strings on fingerboard. > Has anybody seen the original or picture of it? > > Timo > > ________________________________ > > Lähettäjä: Rob MacKillop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lähetetty: su 24.8.2008 9:43 > Vastaanottaja: Monica Hall > Kopio: Vihuelalist > Aihe: [VIHUELA] Re: Chitarrone Francese > > > > Thanks, Monica. I only have time for maybe one piece by each composer, > so if you could post me copies or jpgs that would be great. > > Regarding the question of body shape - guitar or lute - I have no fixed > or learned opinion, but I imagine different luthiers tried different > things. The guitar shape is an obvious one to start with, as what we > are considering is a guitar with diapasons added. However, the baroque > guitar shape is not conducive to a longer bridge on the bass side. The > lute shape is better in this regard. So it might be possible that some > luthiers preferred a lute shape for their arch-guitars. We might never > know. The Grammatica painting shows only five courses on the fretboard, > and this would be an odd thing to do for an archlute - and the painting > is otherwise very detailed, so I think the artist was being accurate. I > can see the desire of some baroque guitar players to want to play the > role that their lute-playing colleagues were doing in the continuo > section, playing bass lines and chords. Having an archlute in guitar > tuning would be an obvious step for some, I guess. > > Anyway, I'm looking forward to experimenting with it for a week. > > Rob > 2008/8/23 Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Well - I have the Granata book and Gallot and so could send you some > of the pieces if you haven't got these. The Gallot has the strings > on the fingerboard tuned to a major major common chord rather than > the usual guitar intervals. > I am bit curious about this though because according to Gary Boye > there is a copy of Granata's 1651 book which has an additional > engraved portrait of Granata with in the background what appears to > be a guitar with extended bass strings. I did query with him > whether the instrument was guitar shaped rather than lute shaped. > He said it was guitar shaped but couldn't find his copy of the > illustration. In his dissertation he gives the RISM sigla of the > book as F:C. I'm not sure whether by this he means the > Conservatorio Library in Florence or an obscure library in France. > Has anyone else seen this copy? It also seems that Granata applied > to be a super numerary lutenist to the Concerto Palatino of San > Petronio in Bologna. > Monica > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob MacKillop" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Vihuela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:57 PM > Subject: [VIHUELA] Chitarrone Francese > > The German luthier, Wolfgang Emmerich has made a copy of the > instrument > from the Grammatica painting, which some believe to be a Chitarrone > Francese - a sort of archlute for guitar players. The painting has > only > five courses on the fretboard. Robert Spencer thought the music by > Fontanelli, the Sonate per il Chitarrone Francese, was for this > instrument. Richard Pinnell has identified the music of Granata and > Gallot also for this instrument. > Now, Wolfgang is visiting Edinburgh in September and is leaving the > instrument with me for a week before he takes it home. I hope to make > an mp3 or two and maybe a video of it before I hand it back. So, could > someone please send me a jpg or two of some pieces I might be able to > play on it? > I'm not in the market for such an instrument, but having it for a week > is very interesting. You can see pictures of the original painting on > Wolfgang's website: > > [1][4]http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm - > click on > > archlute and scroll down. > Rob MacKillop > > -- > References > 1. [5]http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm > To get on or off this list see list information at > [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 3. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > 4. http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm > 5. http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm > 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > >
